From nobody Wed Aug 30 12:58:32 2023 X-Original-To: stable@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4RbPVh4hKbz4s5ks for ; Wed, 30 Aug 2023 12:58:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp) Received: from www121.sakura.ne.jp (www121.sakura.ne.jp [153.125.133.21]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RbPVg3N6Kz4QpW for ; Wed, 30 Aug 2023 12:58:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp has no SPF policy when checking 153.125.133.21) smtp.mailfrom=junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp; dmarc=none Received: from kalamity.joker.local (123-1-88-210.area1b.commufa.jp [123.1.88.210]) (authenticated bits=0) by www121.sakura.ne.jp (8.16.1/8.16.1/[SAKURA-WEB]/20201212) with ESMTPA id 37UCwWJr058883 for ; Wed, 30 Aug 2023 21:58:33 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 21:58:32 +0900 From: Tomoaki AOKI To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: configuring the console on 14-stable with hdmi-attached screen Message-Id: <20230830215832.b5d9a2c6634ca754f79f8b1b@dec.sakura.ne.jp> In-Reply-To: <202308291417.37TEHqmS011734@nuc.oldach.net> References: <202308291417.37TEHqmS011734@nuc.oldach.net> Organization: Junchoon corps X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd14.0) List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-stable List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamd-Bar: - X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.50 / 15.00]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.10)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7684, ipnet:153.125.128.0/18, country:JP]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[stable@freebsd.org]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sakura.ne.jp]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[stable@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4RbPVg3N6Kz4QpW On Tue, 29 Aug 2023 16:17:52 +0200 (CEST) freebsd@oldach.net (Helge Oldach) wrote: > void wrote on Tue, 29 Aug 2023 15:29:07 +0200 (CEST): > > Hi, > > > > On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 10:37:56AM +0200, Helge Oldach wrote: > > > > > >For historical reasons I'm using "sc". Enabled by > > > > > >| kern.vty="sc" > > > > > >in /boot/loader.conf. > > > > What are the historical reasons? (sorry - it would help me to understand the why) > > I've used sc aka syscons since I think FreeBSD 2.2.5, I don't require > the features of vt aka Newcons, plus I'm happy with VGA text mode which > plays nicely with switching to X graphics and back. > > Comparison/issues overview is here: https://wiki.freebsd.org/Newcons > > Kind regards > Helge You should forced to use vt when you start using PCs UEFI firmware without CSM support. Without CSM, UEFI firmware not only impossible to boot with legacy (aka BIOS) mode, but also NOT supporting pure text mode that sc driver mandates anymore. vt (efifb) is the only choice here. -- Tomoaki AOKI