From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 18 17:46:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F3282D31 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 17:46:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qc0-x232.google.com (mail-qc0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c01::232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AC31E1386 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 17:46:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qc0-f178.google.com with SMTP id i17so6370957qcy.37 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 09:46:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=Zw7NRQpmIoDxVEhNXOe59NdWnuctxr+x7f7424+d+40=; b=qQQEKqOc6rops6Llsa0ICV3capkOlkwacp8q5LR1Ul7A/pZEHuakMNuhdOhITH3qqW uO2Yr16WR/0TCKGZbFPLJKiLFRwaM8z3oxYMgDjtFLhdmlIOECEEmxtXM6QoBLsl9+1X hrNmZk5NliJh3RJ6DeIlAaiXQbZRLMLiMbdjY= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=Zw7NRQpmIoDxVEhNXOe59NdWnuctxr+x7f7424+d+40=; b=U3WG/be4WpOlVulFVinsTFYfJJp9odxJclzQhJWsO+/pVLsYhg5Ik3ZSiB4fpbykew b5ZM9Ipgq3/CPjx3FLzjgzefCvnHzdunSdU57f1KmQyTfNxgigTYVJ2Dwv+90SD5qbgZ SegCttqmCtBUPJnvGK34TwglRhzNHQAB8jNaaNzt1uphbCZffQIHgsk60tGsF6x36rDJ jbEp4bnJO+y26uXQx4NVrLyxNLA+qhFDmoJ2se6Ip96qhpPIubQNjaUZ2bb5DaEioutV +PxrlKXsMubYoTxQ/CQbJUzDSlE4IB57LZ5VuynbSVj4hRaKzK07ITQfqq2qaifMEPjH xA8A== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlF9EJsJ/b8gjP/CKboQ8PJ6coJX+MCFmbG9NgsOX0ZVZl5ENssz3Ak2TZtcfBlByjftAKz X-Received: by 10.49.74.138 with SMTP id t10mr55467786qev.21.1387388780873; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 09:46:20 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.96.86.42 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 09:45:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <52B0D149.5020308@marino.st> From: Eitan Adler Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 12:45:50 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: If ports@ list continues to be used as substitute for GNATS, I'm unsubscribing To: Lars Engels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 17:46:22 -0000 On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Lars Engels wrote: > Am 2013-12-17 23:33, schrieb John Marino: > >> Over the months I've seen several ports users copy a failure log and >> mail it to ports@, usually without even saying "hello". I've tried to >> discourage that behavior but other members of this mail list encourage >> this method of bypassing writing PRs. One user even proudly boasted >> that sending email to ports@ is faster than writing a PR so of course he >> was going to do that instead. >> > > That only shows how badly GNATS sucks and that it's much more uncomfortable > to > use than writing a mail. > I totally agree that error need to be tracked in an error tracker where > reports > don't get lost, you have a proper history etc. pp. but GNATS is just ancient > and > should have died in a fire a long time ago. Agreed. There is active work on moving to bugzilla instead of GNATS. I can't give a definite timeline but it should be 'soon'. -- Eitan Adler