From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Dec 20 23:07:35 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 961AC13574AB for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2018 23:07:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from dnvrco-cmomta02.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.228]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4732E72A13 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2018 23:07:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.0.5] ([70.121.63.82]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPA id a7PVg2p1Qsisma7PYgcQWm; Thu, 20 Dec 2018 23:07:25 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2018 17:07:21 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl Reply-To: Paul Schmehl To: Scott Ballantyne , FreeBSD Subject: Re: Upgrade to 11.2 failure Message-ID: <67967F37AC13D12475A956B9@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfMSKueK7ZSDcXU9PexD31MfBV71AKEuHJRlDkXpd+obns6S3nbeJoEEC3IwxXBRSHMP5SHm5JOTp9EJ1EKHsuEUxvzpzeWXsJHk5yf4bou3ePkDd9/3F s3C8GByM/W5a9MZHZLdJgQ4LmvwY3k+YtwyCEuPw1/3ry5+KQ5LgetRuLeyoIE5XYYtPHTh/E69LzZtMjTcyNDoDs8GqGaC6BSuiI2rBBwaCqvQkZcxrPEEE X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4732E72A13 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com designates 107.14.73.228 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.56 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:107.14.73.0/24]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[rr.com]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[dnvrco-cmedge01.email.rr.com,dnvrco-cmedge02.email.rr.com]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[228.73.14.107.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.71)[-0.713,0]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE(-1.54)[ipnet: 107.14.73.0/24(-4.22), asn: 7843(-3.37), country: US(-0.08)]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7843, ipnet:107.14.73.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2018 23:07:35 -0000 --On December 20, 2018 at 1:51:59 PM -0500 Scott Ballantyne wrote: > I have done this many, many times. It does seem that the > freebsd-update/pkg system is more fragile than > I have thought. This isn't a big deal for the stuff I have at homes, but I > have come to rely on this combo > to update systems to which I don't have physical access. Now I am a bit > concerned about doing that. > I know exactly how you feel. I used freebsd-update to upgrade two production systems from 10.4 to 11.2, and both systems didn't come back up after reboot. The first system was in California, so I had to have the hoster figure out what went wrong and fix it. The /etc/rc.conf file was screwed up. The second system was local, so I went to the hosting company and got on the console. It required two fsck runs to fix everything. So, the third system, I didn't even bother. I went to the site and upgraded from the console. That one worked fine. Go figure. And yeah, I've run freebsd-update numerous times without any problems - until now. Paul Schmehl, Retired My opinions are my own. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson "There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person could believe in them." George Orwell