From owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 14 23:15:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 188981065677; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 23:15:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arthurmesh@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB24B8FC1C; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 23:15:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbbrp2 with SMTP id rp2so6898646pbb.13 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 16:15:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=TbKnScZM0+rQcvwLwehh8Ti9Br/5NdhfKO8wRX0TydA=; b=LdFcxhvnIhRLkTurfZMsRdjvWRLZefQcOwxNVd8ziMlG2wmc96mjPqFyVCAk2mLb2t hmmLSM0E67mUs2WLKuC6EGkuptRUGByJjjkzEdaAZkox+n+g3U0pMnwiBGlHGBEqJ+/v lsr5dqSQzl4YJLJ/dCcO+VJDzN7yFvd5wHvkZHVFQWrtxgYFPiA2U44RCF92P3WIwqZW HnS/ea4mZkzB2HLroBF920P+u4ooYT6uTQHHPBuNLlXoYX4dP5QGGMSG6B+NP9shSPW7 fQr6ocSU1mjqSWYwjTq56Scj3YLez2Bu49mjK/WLCYiGMClUHQWSNg9s6o+EUhVvgbdl GQzg== Received: by 10.68.223.164 with SMTP id qv4mr7181210pbc.20.1347664509056; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 16:15:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from x96.org (x96.org. [64.85.165.177]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id uh7sm1750840pbc.35.2012.09.14.16.15.05 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 14 Sep 2012 16:15:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 16:15:03 -0700 From: Arthur Mesh To: Mark Murray , Mark Murray Message-ID: <20120914231503.GP14077@x96.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 01:45:36 +0000 Cc: Arthur Mesh , Ian Lepore , Doug Barton , Ben Laurie , freebsd-security@freebsd.org, RW , "Bjoern A. Zeeb" Subject: Re: svn commit: r239569 - head/etc/rc.d X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 23:15:10 -0000 On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 10:49:14PM +0100, Mark Murray wrote: > I can certainly trigger a reseed at will, but allowing external writes > to overwhelm the system by doing a > > $ cat /dev/zero > /dev/random > > ... just ain't gonna happen. No, sir. Has it been considered that /dev/random being "rw-rw-rw-" may be a bad idea? What's the benefit of allowing unprivileged users reseeding yarrow? Perhaps restricting it to "rw-r--r--" is a part of the solution that may address potential system overwhelm by unprivileged users?