From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 7 19:15:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61F0E37B404 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 19:15:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 918F543E81 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 19:15:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 046AD81458; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 11:45:08 +0930 (CST) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 11:45:07 +0930 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Garance A Drosihn Cc: Daniel Eischen , "M. Warner Losh" , FreeBSD-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Removing old binaries Message-ID: <20021008021507.GR57557@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20021008010539.GE57557@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20021008012532.GF57557@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20021008015928.GO57557@wantadilla.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Monday, 7 October 2002 at 22:11:09 -0400, Garance A Drosihn wrote: > At 11:29 AM +0930 10/8/02, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >> On Monday, 7 October 2002 at 21:57:28 -0400, Garance A Drosihn wrote: >>> How about for each directory, if there are old files found in the >>> directory then create a ".OLDINSTALL" sub-directory, and move the >>> files into there (instead of removing them). And, of course, avoid >>> descending into those .OLDINSTALL directories... >> >> That would be an option. But why do you need to put other files in >> these directories in the first place? > > What do you care? I don't, up to the point where you ask the install process to respect your choice. > I bought the PC, freebsd did not. Maybe it is convenient for me to > have a file there. Maybe I did it by mistake. Maybe it's a core > file that landed there and I forgot to move it. Maybe you'll help > me by removing it. Maybe you'll piss the hell out of me by > destroying some important file that was never created by freebsd in > the first place. Maybe I did an "install -C" because that was > appropriate for *me*, in *my* situation. Maybe I installed some > port with "PREFIX=/". What do you care? What is GAINED by the > freebsd project deciding that it has the right to go around > destroying files on people's hard disks? I thought I had explained that a while back. Consistency and repeatability. > I understand what is gained by moving known-obsolete files out of > the way, but that does not justify going wild with "rm" commands > just because freebsd "wants to own" /usr/bin and friends. I would think that a NOCLEAN_OLD or some such option would probably be to accommodate you. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message