From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Aug 23 10:17:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA13911 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 10:17:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA13696 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 10:14:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA16011; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 10:02:57 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199608231702.KAA16011@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: JDK 1.02 To: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 10:02:57 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, didier@omnix.fr.org, nate@mt.sri.com, hackers@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199608231644.KAA07194@rocky.mt.sri.com> from "Nate Williams" at Aug 23, 96 10:44:31 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Look at the mindshare M$ has. It is *inversely* proportional to it's > open-ness. Sun is just taking a card from M$'s deck and using it to > it's full advantage. I think we could argue that in order to contribute to "mindshare", one has to have a mind... that could easily disqualify most of the people you are counting there... > However, on the bright side it's popularity has caused the folks who > build the PC build tools to give usable build environments (Symantec's > Cafe', M$'s VJ++, etc..). Sun has *yet* to come up with a usable IDE > for doing java development, and they own the technology. :( Sorta like the toolkits (not) available from the X Consortium... Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.