From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 8 19:05:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15F2A106564A for ; Fri, 8 Oct 2010 19:05:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cptsalek@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAB1F8FC0A for ; Fri, 8 Oct 2010 19:05:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwe4 with SMTP id 4so315829qwe.13 for ; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 12:05:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=9mGbVqCTArCBZ2J02U2FSTUHAtDtgz287dUyvXUaVVE=; b=AG7DdMUfgF+BrL37Yc/795XZPlFR/8cRr+zs7aAHi79NYyIwokA4Zu7h3zQ2rRARiY uzjvO3tyPvMh3FWgKE5j17AFSIPFAwI/3BuMFSEoKA066rDLCOjHCSLKoOY6LnwyWgeq hxedi8S2mrErPq0k/6hx+ahCQfWws/a2c6lf8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=L5Ns4MbvjVAfaSoKVyzhMUmlHlbE21yJOgO8SyuH5MNM4NKHGynJnqDvFSU2Hfq7Di bkS5BZJIXoSOs5YtTIYyralGr7k4cWNKfpdVfyt2HLket/lhQzHDwsIF6qRBBrv6Kpii y+PBTGqGyFUDyJAUlz385yb4vviHP0osA7ij0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.84.77 with SMTP id i13mr1823097qal.317.1286563408753; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 11:43:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.225.132 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Oct 2010 11:43:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20101008181213.c9511a15.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> References: <201009011653.o81Grkm4056064@fire.js.berklix.net> <4C8627A6.1090308@icyb.net.ua> <20101008091231.GS2532@e-Gitt.NET> <20101008181213.c9511a15.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 20:43:28 +0200 Message-ID: From: Christian Walther To: Torfinn Ingolfsen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ISDN4BSD removal (was: FreeBSD 6.4 and 8.0 EoLs coming soon) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2010 19:05:16 -0000 On 8 October 2010 18:12, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: [...] > I don't know how it works in other countries, but here (in Norway) it > works like this: yes - ISDN technology is dying. > However, like all other technologies that major telcos have invested a > lot in, its death is very slow. Extremely slow in fact. > > It could very well be that ISDN will live five or ten years still here, > simply because it doesn't cost too much to maintain, and there is no > new technology to push the dying ISDN over the edge off the cliff. I second that. Living in germany I feel that many people are even used to their good ol' analog phone lines. And since broadband here is called "DSL" we need phone lines anyway. So the only reason to call classic telephone services would be to use the freed frequency to extend the bandwith available to DSL. And I don't see that happen anytime soon. On the contrary, with all the investments in wireless technologies I think that ISDN will stay for several years. Personally I like having a good, solid backup when DSL goes down. And I don't trust VoIP enough to shut down my classic telephone lines.