From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 15:35:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A16D106568C for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:35:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beni@brinckman.info) Received: from lrelay01.edpnet.net (lrelay01.edpnet.net [212.71.1.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1C588FC55 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:35:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bsdaddict.localnet (213.219.160.87.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net [213.219.160.87]) by lrelay01.edpnet.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n7JF0THn019016 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:00:29 +0200 From: beni To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:00:27 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (FreeBSD/7.2-STABLE; KDE/4.2.4; i386; ; ) References: <4A8BA737.90205@ibctech.ca> In-Reply-To: <4A8BA737.90205@ibctech.ca> X-Face: $,~&QrDrInYiH(ZUXjNH_0r4q\`w83!}&; +8c.K[`NnZwV|m$5N{NCkWesaR.9|yqIC[)g=a;93dz2mP7iv)LLzBd;6^Y:=*>@U;_\+4( MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200908191700.28341.beni@brinckman.info> X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at lrelay01.edpnet.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on lrelay01.edpnet.net Subject: Re: Desktop Install Option X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: beni@brinckman.info List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:35:50 -0000 Op woensdag 19 augustus 2009 09:18:15 schreef Steve Bertrand: > Sabeeh Baig wrote: > > So, I've been wondering about something. FreeBSD is a general purpose > > operating system, even though it has historically only heavily been used > > on servers. Why is it that FreeBSD doesn't provide a desktop > > installation, something similar to say Debian's option of "Standard > > Desktop"? For those who need it, it'd be great. > > God willing, the majority of effort in regards to FreeBSD will be spent > where it always has. > > FreeBSD is not Linux. There are those who are working toward making a > GUI easier-to-implement, but afaik, that is not (and hope not) the > design goal. > > Instead of "Desktop" features to appeal to people, what FreeBSD really > needs is people who are willing to take the time to drop the GUI for a > few weeks, and gain a bit of exposure and enlightenment. If it clicks, > you're hooked. If not, then there's Linux and Windows. > > Steve That seems to be the standard answer here when (periodicaly) this questions comes up :-) "We don't need it" (the "we" being the server-gurus). It's that or "if you want it, do it yourself". But to me it seems that the question returns regularly and that there must be a certain demand for it. So why don't you let the user decide if he wants a bloated desktop or a lean mean server ? Now I don't have that option... That is why I run pc-bsd now. They are able to do a GUI install of a desktop on top of a solid OS, something that the hardcore server/headless/serial/admins/whatever users here don't seem to care about. And yes, I know this discussion has been done already several times here :-) -- Beni.