From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 26 19:58:28 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6244D14AC07C for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2019 19:58:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from antranigv@freebsd.am) Received: from mail-ot1-x335.google.com (mail-ot1-x335.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::335]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E29E6AE42 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2019 19:58:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from antranigv@freebsd.am) Received: by mail-ot1-x335.google.com with SMTP id e12so11543989otl.5 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2019 11:58:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd-am.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=in8KGhGi+kLq6cZGdZfKexc9jA+domyVkFdeyfULpKA=; b=Im04cJ5nm7ecwJnlFO/ZJaTOr3lnXCeQur3e+6FhtYCWfYTUi/Qob62R3xguykwTdG 2lkpPA/3IueWZY7/wD3DdDKJpyJFPAvpK4DPyc5eWsLBNgXiceVTG3ExqADhrdUbZEvM nvqlU3MY6cNQ2Yb86GPkM6Jbqz4B5ubC0mn9Rz6mpWuot5k0hYRAknHnPHuIA7AfjUJ0 /cA11IeHLyP3VFKzOmHpQyd2FoEKJYlbWEfKJS9DZpWM+/l3Xi7rmb0PcWdBA70AkxcZ LXAOEotI9cca+ig8Xn4uT/cu7oJM40Q5T5tVBMdAXeyMg1+VJXT2C6hBT13OQqU+0Mqz RZ/w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=in8KGhGi+kLq6cZGdZfKexc9jA+domyVkFdeyfULpKA=; b=UE1owdczuyUaEIlNFI1+2QT5K4tHP+scwTV+zf4OFZVVzE+UvHevg4NbeBp7XuJUUc qshzNdvVQ97JlHBGZMj7mQ5f5AnjOMh9nKz0h1COQPzLMiLSS6hSxd7WbwB0EuBUVgXt KtiGY6anQlrvo+19g80l2SyDH+v81BUuXcig5OzCHbDxoxKUGG70CxoxAKi4XuplntuE aQj9Mf1q3UoZQGo7f2CqsOG1uiM1Pc+wUB6idER+XTkiO0pkOOJ6amZDsQfWcLiWrqEx HgX+tGVCO7tCp2XbuSuzcjSwAXZoAA0BGFBH8OSziZ30RL9KD5h9SSeAMx/gp7Wb5CzZ BX6A== X-Gm-Message-State: AJcUukc3rQDCbNqZERe1gLlraMBWlJzPeLjJjuGhHtEDJZ/oBf8jgoJb O3ol0mk3LzDQYJ4l1CmBLTHGVqoLubWZOQNNh4S2ag== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ALg8bN4hP1PYrwfuKecS5kkuRCRdJ0m8joLKEWyRuD8B89tsfZ4QOVy+F3strHOW0TGBe+96ndKB9QdKRNUu0rJWFSc= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:3782:: with SMTP id x2mr11289006otb.13.1548532705985; Sat, 26 Jan 2019 11:58:25 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Antranig Vartanian Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2019 23:58:14 +0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Wireless interface To: "Myster.Hide" Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4E29E6AE42 X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=freebsd-am.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.s=20150623 header.b=Im04cJ5n; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of antranigv@freebsd.am designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::335 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=antranigv@freebsd.am X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.27 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[freebsd-am.20150623.gappssmtp.com:s=20150623]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[freebsd.am]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[freebsd-am.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[5.3.3.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[ALT3.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM,ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM,ALT2.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM,ALT1.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM,ALT4.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM]; IP_SCORE(-2.53)[ip: (-8.15), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.50), asn: 15169(-1.93), country: US(-0.08)]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.23)[-0.226,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2019 19:58:28 -0000 /me grabs popcorn. /* sorry couldn't control myself */ On Sat, Jan 26, 2019, 11:56 PM Myster.Hide > Le 26/01/2019 =C3=A0 13:50, Carmel NY a =C3=A9crit : > > On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 09:54:05 -0600, Rob Belics stated: > > > >>> It is situations like this that make me love > >>> Microsoft. Connecting a wireless network should not require user > >>> intervention other than choosing the network and entering the > >>> password. > >> FreeBSD is not a consumer operating system. It's not designed to hand > >> hold anyone. That is why Windows is such a huge monstrosity of an > >> install. > > I just finished a fresh install of Windows 10. If you take the time > > involved in installing a basic MS Windows system vs. a basic FreeBSD > > system, Windows will usually win. A big plus is that Windows actually > > can get a wireless system up and running by itself, sans perhaps > > supplying the password. Does FreeBSD even support using the WPS Button > > on the Wi-Fi Router? Plus, you then have to install a GUI. Now, if you > > want to compare a FreeBSD system sans GUI, you have to compare it > > against a MS Server, not the regular Windows version design for home or > > office users. > > > > This is not about "hand-holding"; it is about bring the OS into the > > modern age. My machine is supposed to be my slave, not the other way > > around. > > > > Thanks for your comment anyway. > > > Windows is your slave? Really? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >