From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 26 11:17:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DEEDFAC for ; Thu, 26 Dec 2013 11:17:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vps.rulingia.com (vps.rulingia.com [103.243.244.15]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B0D2216D3 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 2013 11:17:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.rulingia.com (c220-239-250-249.belrs5.nsw.optusnet.com.au [220.239.250.249]) by vps.rulingia.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id rBQBGpii061685 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 26 Dec 2013 22:16:52 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter@rulingia.com) X-Bogosity: Ham, spamicity=0.000000 Received: from server.rulingia.com (localhost.rulingia.com [127.0.0.1]) by server.rulingia.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id rBQBGkWo063782 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 26 Dec 2013 22:16:46 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter@server.rulingia.com) Received: (from peter@localhost) by server.rulingia.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id rBQBGiM5063781; Thu, 26 Dec 2013 22:16:44 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2013 22:16:44 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy To: freebsd-current Subject: Re: PACKAGESITE spam Message-ID: <20131226111644.GA46781@server.rulingia.com> References: <52B5DF8C.5050204@gmx.com> <20131221200538.GA60827@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <52B7432D.3070106@bluerosetech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <52B7432D.3070106@bluerosetech.com> X-PGP-Key: http://www.rulingia.com/keys/peter.pgp User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.22 (2013-10-16) Cc: Steve Kargl X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2013 11:17:09 -0000 --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2013-Dec-22 11:53:17 -0800, Darren Pilgrim wrote: >Because of that deinstall log. When you use `pkg install` to upgrade a=20 >port, you get something like this: > >Jul 10 23:06:40 chombo pkg-static: ca_root_nss-3.15.1 installed >Nov 29 15:04:52 chombo pkg: ca_root_nss reinstalled: 3.15.2_1 > >That information does not exist in the pkg database. I agree that's a serious bug/regression in the pkg database: With the old pkg system, I could tell when a port was installed by looking at the timestamps on the +COMMENT file. The install time is needed to answer questions like "does this entry in UPDATING affect me" (ie have I rebuilt the port since the entry date). It's something I used regularly and its absence is a PITA. I shouldn't need to rummage through /var/log/messages - and in any case, by default FreeBSD only keeps 500K of messages history (about a month in my case) so the information has probably rotated into the bit bucket. I agree that having a pkg audit trail would be useful. Unfortunately, what we have today is not an audit trail and isn't especially useful. --=20 Peter Jeremy --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (FreeBSD) iKUEARECAGYFAlK8EBxfFIAAAAAALgAoaXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3Bl bnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDBCRjc3QTcyNTg5NEVCRTY0RjREN0VFRUZF OEE0N0JGRjAwRkI4ODcACgkQ/opHv/APuIecBQCgiqX3kcRjG4gw9EjrxrzCqMEw ZlQAljzw+jE+hRjJ4JSIuH3gp/cALCA= =McFY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ--