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Date:      Mon, 26 Feb 2001 17:01:05 -0600
From:      Doug Poland <dpoland@polands.org>
To:        Olivier Cortes <receiver@deep-ocean.net>, questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: vinum advice sought
Message-ID:  <20010226170104.A28773@polands.org>
In-Reply-To: <20010226234311.A18599@sylgen.deep-ocean.net>
References:  <20010226161202.A18209@polands.org> <20010226234311.A18599@sylgen.deep-ocean.net>

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On Mon, Feb 26, 2001 at 11:43:11PM +0100, Olivier Cortes wrote:
> oh oh, 7 SCSI disks ,really ?
> 
> what do you think of :
> 	
> 	* one for /, /tmp, /var
> 	* one for swap and /usr
> 	* 5 in a raid5 array with vinum for /usr/home !!
> 
I was going to put /, /tmp, /var, /usr, and swap on 
a single 4.3G IDE and all 7 SCSI for a /data mount 
(/usr/home too, I suppose)

Does that make sense?


> raid 5 will give good perf. the little partitions are on one disk, they are not too solicited
> generally. swap is nearly alone, with /usr. hoping /usr will not be too busy, swap will not 
> bother you. on /usr/home, you could redirect the squid cache if you are using it.
> 
> if lots of graphics and large files, raid will have at least stripes of 512k.
> if remember vinum(8) dealing with 1mb of stripe size if VERY big files.
> 
> could some other people give some other ideas ? 
> 
> 
> olivier
> 
> 
> PS:
> 
> 
> my home net example :
> --------------------------
> 
> server: P3 450 / 384Mo / AHA 2940UW / Tekram DC310
> / (128Mo), /tmp (1Go), /usr (1,8Go) and /var (750Mo) on a seagate 4.3 UW (AHA).
> /record for cdrecord, and old SCSI2 1go drive on Tekram.
> /dev/rsa0 DDS3 on Tekram.
> 
> /dev/vinum/stripe1 : 2 x 30Go IDE stripped with 512k stripe size.
> 
> thanx to the stripping, IDE disks take few CPU time when active :)
> 
>  my corporate server:
> -----------------------
> 
> P3 500 / 512Mo / AHA 29160 / 5 x 9Go Seagate LVD
> 
> 1 seagate for /, /tmp, /var /usr
> a mirror of 2 stripes of 2 disks for /usr/home, 128Ko stripe size (small office files & big outlook mailboxes...)
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Feb 26, 2001 at 04:12:03PM -0600, Doug Poland wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I'm building a modest file server for a small,
> > non-critical network of M$Win users.  Typical
> > users will be using M$ Office apps reading and
> > writing binary files.  Some files will get quite
> > large (as in Outlook mail files) and word files
> > with lots of graphics.  
> > 
> > Unless I'm way off the mark, I'd like to optimize
> > for speed so the windows users (PIII 500-900MHz)
> > won't be frustrated with delays and be tempted
> > to save files on local HD.
> > 
> > This is my config...
> > 
> > Ethernet:	10/100 Intel and 10/100 SMC NICS
> > Clients:	PIII 500-900MHz (between 5 and 20)
> > 
> > Server:		PII 200MHz
> > 			48MB RAM
> > 			4.2-RELEASE (soon to be -STABLE)
> > 			Using latest samba
> > 			Host adapter: single AH2940  
> > 			NIC: single 10/100 Intel
> > 			HDs: 3600RPM IBM SCSI-2 (total of 7)
> > 
> > Given this, could someone recommend a vinum
> > config that will give the best performance
> > possible on this hardware?
> > 
> > I've read and somewhat understand the following
> > resources:
> > 	vinum(4) and (8) man pages.
> > 	http://www.vinumvm.org/vinum/Performance-issues.html
> > 	http://www.shub-internet.org/brad/FreeBSD/vinum.html
> > 	http://www.freebsddiary.org/vinum.html
> > 
> > As I understand, there may not be a "best" way
> > to configure a vinum system.  Since I've never 
> > done this before, I don't understand the nuances 
> > between number of spindles, drivers/controller, 
> > the influences of stripe size, RAID-1 mirroring, 
> > request size, concurrency, request structure.   
> > 
> > I'm not a sysadmin by training so go easy on 
> > me please :)
> > 
> > -- 
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Doug
> > 
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> 
> ---
> Olivier Cortes
> free software admin

-- 

Regards,
Doug

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