From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 24 04:11:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52E6916A4CE for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 04:11:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpq1.home.nl (smtpq1.home.nl [213.51.128.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C57543D1D for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 04:11:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bram@moolenaar.net) Received: from [213.51.128.132] (port=53344 helo=smtp1.home.nl) by smtpq1.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AkMd1-0003dy-DC; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:11:07 +0100 Received: from cp52318-a.venlo1.lb.home.nl ([217.123.168.93]:1235 helo=moolenaar.net) by smtp1.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AkMd0-0005mY-Bg; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:11:06 +0100 Received: from masaka.moolenaar.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by moolenaar.net (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i0OC9PiS001657; Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:09:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Bram@moolenaar.net) Message-Id: <200401241209.i0OC9PiS001657@moolenaar.net> To: Joe Marcus Clarke In-Reply-To: <1074934229.1546.72.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> From: Bram Moolenaar Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:09:25 +0100 Sender: Bram@moolenaar.net X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@home.nl for more information X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean cc: FreeBSD GNOME Users Subject: Re: Build of Mozilla failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 12:11:10 -0000 Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > > Slow loading of pages, some parts of pages are not displayed. Would > > have to look into the page sources to find out why (perhaps it's > > javascript or something like that). I also see that my KDE color > > preferences mess up how the toolbar looks. > > I haven't noticed any problems like that. Do you have some example > pages? Since I don't use KDE, I don't have a suggestion on that. > Perhaps kde@ could offer more insight. I now found a way to run Mozilla next to Netscape (skip the shell script and start the executable directly). This requires creating a new user profile. Surprisingly this solved the problems I had with the color settings! Slow loading still exists, especially making the first connection to a site is very slow. > > > > - What are the -gtk2 and -bonobo versions? > > > > > > The gtk2 version is needed for building gtk2-based browsers like galeon2 > > > and epiphany which require Mozilla as a base. mozilla-bonobo is a > > > Mozilla plug-in that enables one to embed bonobo controls into Mozilla > > > (e.g. ggv, gpdf, gnumeric, etc.). > > > > And, eh, do I need it? > > If you have a lot of GNOME apps installed, and you like to view things > like PDF documents, spreadsheets, word processor documents, etc. > directly in your browser, then you'll want it. > > > I was hoping for an answer like "it runs faster > > but requires installing GTK2" or "uses more memory and doesn't offer > > more features". > > The -gtk2 version is prettier, but it is the same basic browser. If you > don't need gtk2 support, don't install it. That's more like the kind of answers I would like to see on that web page. Will help quite a few people to decide what version to install. > > Considering how much effort it has been to make all these ports, > > explaining people what the differences are can't be that much work. > > Unless the porters don't want anyone to know about their efforts... > > Finding the right place for this is the hard part. We could add another > project section (i.e. www.freebsd.org/mozilla), but that will take > approval from doc@, and someone to build the content. However, it's > something we should do. I have the impression that FreeBSD is currently a small group of clever and hard working engineers, with the marketing department missing. Thus they make a lot of nice things, but hardly anyone knows where to get it or what it actually does. No surprise FreeBSD is mostly used for servers. -- Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke /// Bram Moolenaar -- Bram@Moolenaar.net -- http://www.Moolenaar.net \\\ /// Sponsor Vim, vote for features -- http://www.Vim.org/sponsor/ \\\ \\\ Project leader for A-A-P -- http://www.A-A-P.org /// \\\ Help AIDS victims, buy here: http://ICCF-Holland.org/click1.html ///