From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 15 20:54:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA537106566C for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:54:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from delphij@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7530C8FC08 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:54:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyf2 with SMTP id 2so3085045gyf.13 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 13:54:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=j91v5R+5eCNcOhC4ieQza/3LEXpb85x5oYbmcT3yz5w=; b=cWUEjFa2d8yUeJSFTBOCJX80w2aGO37JSAX2zeAywGVXoTGcSCN4nw2nMWAGuJ0woS ZSzyFO8GYxQ6wZEgzIh2+EfX1q85Ugfo63D0eqSJpaCzQnGWh37yhOmysF3fvDrMUFCU 0JNRiTZD32h2VML66qYbvkwByNGqyvUFYmxOA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.115.7 with SMTP id n7mr1819025ybc.221.1316118487949; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 13:28:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.136.11 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 13:28:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20110912230943.GD33455@guilt.hydra> <4E6E99BC.4050909@missouri.edu> <1315905051.1747.208.camel@xenon> <4E6F8A50.9060205@gmx.de> <1315942042.1747.258.camel@xenon> <4E6FD71D.9010207@gmx.de> <20110914181553.f6d31b0f.cjr@cruwe.de> <4E722F3F.3030606@wasikowski.net> <20110915180815.GA46983@guilt.hydra> <4E7247F2.7080207@wasikowski.net> <20110915183710.GA47127@guilt.hydra> <4E7253AF.7030602@wasikowski.net> <4E725782.3090107@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 13:28:07 -0700 Message-ID: From: Xin LI To: Chris Rees Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Matthias Andree , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring). X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:54:57 -0000 On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Chris Rees wrote: > On 15 Sep 2011 20:52, "Matthias Andree" wrote: >> >> Am 15.09.2011 21:36, schrieb =C5=81ukasz W=C4=85sikowski: >> >> > BTW: You hate having a software update break your software. I hate whe= n >> > software updates turn off services on my servers. That's another thing >> > portage do better - update won't turn off any service. You are suppose= d >> > to restart services manually after doing etc-update. Speaking of which= - >> > another good idea worth adopting. >> >> Few ports stop services when getting deinstalled/upgraded, so it may be >> worth pinging the affected ports' maintainers about it. > > Really? I thought it was supposed to be standard behaviour- the @stopdaem= on > line in pkg-plist facilitates that. While I totally understand why we do this, I have to say it's VERY VERY annoying behavior especially when one upgrading a remote system with multiple server daemon ports. One have to watch the whole process carefully and restart the daemon manually. As part of symmetry, I think a reasonable behavior should be at least, if pkg_delete kills the daemon, pkg_add or make install should start it, and the user can optionally disable this behavior. Cheers, --=20 Xin LI https://www.delphij.net/ FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! Live free or die