From owner-freebsd-chat Sat May 20 7:17:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from lariat.org (lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CE7237B533 for ; Sat, 20 May 2000 07:17:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from mustang.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp0.lariat.org@lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA23318; Sat, 20 May 2000 08:17:35 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <4.3.1.2.20000520081306.046e03d0@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1 Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 08:17:28 -0600 To: "Thomas M. Sommers" , chat@FreeBSD.ORG From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: Why are people against GNU? WAS Re: 5.0 already? In-Reply-To: <392625FE.43D7994B@mail.ptd.net> References: <003b01bfbcdc$6059fb40$a164aad0@kickme> <391D71FE.1570F551@asme.org> <20000513205610.A22103@physics.iisc.ernet.in> <3.0.6.32.20000513143506.00895650@mail85.pair.com> <20000514010614.A16058@happy.checkpoint.com> <3.0.6.32.20000513180213.00894400@mail85.pair.com> <20000514023000.A16663@happy.checkpoint.com> <3.0.6.32.20000513192827.00895a10@mail85.pair.com> <20000514040731.B17455@happy.checkpoint.com> <391E27DD.320D4BBF@mail.ptd.net> <20000514024308.A57423@sasami.jurai.net> <4.3.1.2.20000519144129.04244e60@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 11:43 PM 5/19/2000, Thomas M. Sommers wrote: > > Ah, but performers routinely prohibit recording or videotaping of > > plays and concerts, claiming a copyright on those "events." > >Are they claiming copyright to the event, or that when you use your >ticket you incurred a contractual obligation not to record the event? Both, actually. You will find notices on the tickets AND copyright notices in TV and radio broadcasts. > > Likewise, the NFL and NBA claim copyrights baseball and football > > games, and have claimed that people who compile statistics and scores > > by watching licensed broadcasts are creating derivative works. > >The broadcast, of course, is copyrightable, and anything based on it >would be a derivative work. If you attend the game in person, see >previous comment. Ah, but statistics are factual information, not an act of authorship. They're thus not subject to copyright by virtue of the US Constitution. The "Collections of Information Anti-Piracy Act" attempts an end run around this provision, and proponents claim it'll hold up on account of the "commerce clause." I'm dubious, and the Supreme Court is too; it has been stingy vis-a-vis this clause lately. But there's still a chance that big money could win the day. --Brett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message