From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 15:45:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9084106566C for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 15:45:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@mschuette.name) Received: from mail.asta.uni-potsdam.de (mail.asta.uni-potsdam.de [IPv6:2001:638:807:3a:20d:56ff:fefd:1183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46BF98FC23 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 15:45:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.asta.uni-potsdam.de (mail.asta.uni-potsdam.de [IPv6:2001:638:807:3a:20d:56ff:fefd:1183]) by mail.asta.uni-potsdam.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FB7D502436 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 16:45:39 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: on mail at asta.uni-potsdam.de Received: from mail.asta.uni-potsdam.de ([141.89.58.198]) by mail.asta.uni-potsdam.de (mail.asta.uni-potsdam.de [141.89.58.198]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0oFN1GYu-lBe for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 16:45:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from dagny.mschuette.name (cl-485.dus-01.de.sixxs.net [IPv6:2a01:198:200:1e4::2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Martin Schuette", Issuer "AStA-CA" (verified OK)) (Authenticated sender: mschuett) by mail.asta.uni-potsdam.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 95F4E502435 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 16:45:32 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4D25E39B.2050804@mschuette.name> Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 16:45:31 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Martin_Sch=FCtte?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; de-DE; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101230 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <20110105132155.GO23329@acme.spoerlein.net> <20110105194748.GS23329@acme.spoerlein.net> <4D250159.30108@quip.cz> <201101060752.32539.jhb@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <201101060752.32539.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: RFC regarding usage of ISO 8601 throughout the tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 15:45:40 -0000 On 01/06/11 13:52, John Baldwin wrote: >> I am using ISO8601 date + time format for years in my scripts, logs >> etc., so it would be nice to have it on all places of FreeBSD as a >> standard format. > Changing the format of syslog messages is guaranteed to break ${INFINITY} > scripts and other log parsing tools. I think that is too large of a POLA > violation to justify. On the other ahnd there is also a new syslog RFC which uses ISO8601 timestamps (http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5424) and is implemented by syslog-ng, rsyslog and NetBSD-current. As with most major changes the format should be configurable and use the old format as default. But in the long term I would expect the new format to spread (maybe just because I use it on my logserver and already changed my parsing tools). -- Martin