From owner-freebsd-advocacy Fri Nov 6 04:39:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA24752 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 04:39:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA24711 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 04:39:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from chronias.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.58.34]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA298E; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:39:19 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 13:43:18 +0100 (CET) Organization: Ninth Circle Enterprises From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Garance A Drosihn Subject: Re: Linux "best of breed?" Cc: advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, Brett Glass Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 06-Nov-98 Garance A Drosihn wrote: > At 2:24 PM -0700 11/5/98, Brett Glass wrote: >> Ahem! It's beginning to sound as if these Linux memos, leaked >> by Linux zealots, are a little too self-serving to be real. >> >> Maybe a word or two from the FreeBSD PR machine might be useful >> here. Oh, I forgot: FreeBSD doesn't DO PR. > > I'm hearing more about freebsd and openbsd than I used to. It > seems to me that things are improving. Let me stress yer point even more, when I was in university last year, all I heard about was Linux this, Linux that. Not surprisingly that many of us only knew of one open UNIX, namely Linux. Ye can understand my estactic cheer when I discovered FreeBSD at work along with a part-time/freelance UNIX guru here in the Netherlands. He taught me a lot about UNIX and got me hooked on FreeBSD by the sheer logic of it all... Needless to say FreeBSD is still way more logical than Linux and whenever I talk to old classmastes whom still use Linux I will voice my opinion about FreeBSD to them. > But even ignoring that, what *exactly* do you think the FreeBSD > project should do for this specific instance? Send email to > news.com saying "Oh yeah? We're best of breed, not Linux!". > news.com is just reporting this story, and it is a valid story > for them to report. We don't need to go running around after > every story about Linux and say "HEY, WE EXIST TOO, OVER HERE, > OVER HERE, PAY ATTENTION TO ME!!!!". We need to write our own > stories, and make our own case for our own project. No, yer right, the least thing we want to achieve is being viewed as a bunch of whiners who think they are getting behind in PR with regard to Linux. > Seems to me that several people have been encouraging FreeBSD > users to do just that. Write our own stories, talking about > our own goals. Running after every Linux story just makes us > look like we don't have anything of our own to say, other than > we want to get in on Linux's fame. I think that's the wrong > kind of PR to have. Indeed, Linux' history != *BSD history. In fact we predate Linux. On a side note, isn't it very handy to unite the three free BSD's by means of a bar on the homepage and providing a quick jump point to those sites? FreeBSD | NetBSD | OpenBSD Just a thought, --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai(at)wxs.nl Junior Network/Security Specialist FreeBSD & picoBSD: The Power to Serve... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message