From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Jul 2 5:45:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4A2B37B400 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 05:45:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from b.mx.canon.com.au (bexfield.research.canon.com.au [203.12.172.125]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C43343E32 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 05:45:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from iain.templeton@cisra.canon.com.au) Received: from bellmann.research.canon.com.au (canonex.research.canon.com.au [203.12.172.254]) by b.mx.canon.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABFC81AC713; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 12:45:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from research.canon.com.au (paque.research.canon.com.au [10.11.1.83]) by bellmann.research.canon.com.au (Postfix) with SMTP id 4C8148B19; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 22:43:50 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: Ishtek MeeMail 2.45 In-Reply-To: <20020702123637.GA2389@HAL9000.wox.org> Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2002 22:45:52 +1000 From: Iain Templeton Subject: Re: GPL, BSD, Artistic license To: David Schultz , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Andrew Message-Id: <20020702124350.4C8148B19@bellmann.research.canon.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You wrote: >Thus spake Andrew : >[snip topic that's bound to start another flamewar] > >> >> By the way, I heard on Zdnet that micro$oft uses some code from >> FreeBSD in their w2k. How did they do that? I've never seen BSD >> copyright notice in w2k. I thought BSDL applies to modified software >> even if it's distributed in binary forms. >> > >Microsoft has been lifting BSDL'd code for years, although they >don't always `remember' to say so in their release notes. They >usually mangle the attribution somehow, by using their own wording >for the license, or putting the license in one place and the >copyright in another (see link below). At least they're not as >bad as Red Hat with other people's intellectual property. > >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q306819#10 > Wow, even a FreeBSD committer has had their own code used in WindowsXP, and been directly acknowledged. Iain To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message