From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon May 11 01:03:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA00611 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Mon, 11 May 1998 01:03:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bamboo.verinet.com (root@bamboo.verinet.com [204.144.246.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA00589 for ; Mon, 11 May 1998 01:03:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from allenc@verinet.com) Received: from const. (willow25.verinet.com [199.45.181.57]) by bamboo.verinet.com (8.8.8/8.7.1) with ESMTP id CAA12793; Mon, 11 May 1998 02:03:26 -0600 Received: (from allenc@localhost) by const. (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA13278; Mon, 11 May 1998 02:03:54 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from allenc) Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 02:03:54 -0600 (MDT) From: allen campbell Message-Id: <199805110803.CAA13278@const.> To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Bounced mail (was Unexpected behaviour from pdksh.) Cc: mike@smith.net.au In-Reply-To: <199805110651.XAA21952@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > <<< 550 ... we do not relay jwd@unx.sas.com > > > 550 ... User unknown > > > > You are trying to send mail via a system that doesn't want to do it > > for you. You've left out the name of the system in the message above, > > but I'd recommend that you stop trying to use it. > > Actually, no. This is attepting to deliver to the destination system, > and if you look at the transcript, it tells you who the system is. > > The rejection comes from the *target* system. This is a problem with > the current anti-relaying sendmail rules - I am having inordinate > difficulty delivering mail from my dialup here in japan due to this. > I experienced similar problems using sendmail via a dialup connection, so I defined SMART_HOST in sendmail.mc to cause all non-local mail to relay through my ISP mail host. I am no mail expert, but I reasoned that the target mail host is doing a reverse name lookup to verify the sender, and when this check fails the mail is bounced. With the mail relaying through my ISP mail host, the remote sendmail is happy. BTW, I have never had mail bounce from the mail host(s) at freebsd.org due to this. However, nearly everything sent elsewhere bounces when not relayed through my ISP mail host. Is freebsd.org's leniency due to the number of messages sent from hosts like root@myname.my.domain that would bounce otherwise? -- Allen Campbell allenc@verinet.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message