From owner-freebsd-chat Fri May 17 15: 4:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 244F037B40E for ; Fri, 17 May 2002 15:04:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a187.otenet.gr [212.205.215.187]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g4HM4ZQN012463 for ; Sat, 18 May 2002 01:04:39 +0300 (EEST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (hades [127.0.0.1]) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g4HGaO6m009838 for ; Fri, 17 May 2002 19:36:25 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g4HGaO2C009837; Fri, 17 May 2002 19:36:24 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 19:36:24 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Terry Lambert Cc: Miguel Mendez , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The road ahead? Message-ID: <20020517163624.GB9697@hades.hell.gr> References: <20020516004909.A9808@daemon.tisys.org> <20020516151801.A47974@energyhq.homeip.net> <20020516172853.A7750@daemon.tisys.org> <3CE40759.7C584101@mindspring.com> <20020516220616.A51305@energyhq.homeip.net> <3CE43D08.1FDBF0A3@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3CE43D08.1FDBF0A3@mindspring.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.99i Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2002-05-16 16:13, Terry Lambert wrote: > Miguel Mendez wrote: > > > > Terry, you've just found a way of revenue for the FreeBSD project. > > > > 1) Give the OS away > A) #1 already happens > > 2) Remove *all* man pages and online documentation > > B) #2 is defacto done; compare the info and man pages for gcc > or gld, some day But the info pages can be installed for both programs, as part of the system installation. What was your point again? > > 3) Make the system horrendously obfuscated > C) #3 is defacto done As a documentation writer, I am terribly offended :P This also seems like you're suggesting that the FreeBSD developers do their best to obfuscate the programs and code they write. In a system like FreeBSD that tries to follow standards like SUSv3 or similar, this is not possible and not wanted. I think you're doing harm to FreeBSD in this. Harm that is not needed, and certainly not deserved by all the people who are trying to make FreeBSD an operating system and environment easier to us :-/ > > 4) Become rich by selling FreeBSD manuals at $100 a pop :-) > > D) #4 Doesn't work in the presence of a monopolist with a > competing product who doesn't pull the same pig-trick So making a profit out of FreeBSD by using those same ``dirty tricks'' mentioned above, can not be done. You're effectively stating that this is already done in B) and then later argue that it can't be done. Now I'm thoroughly confused. - Giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message