From owner-freebsd-hubs Mon May 7 15: 7:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from casimir.physics.purdue.edu (casimir.physics.purdue.edu [128.210.146.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 110F037B423; Mon, 7 May 2001 15:07:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from will@physics.purdue.edu) Received: by casimir.physics.purdue.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D2E581BD20; Mon, 7 May 2001 17:02:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 17:02:42 -0500 From: Will Andrews To: David O'Brien Cc: Will Andrews , Jordan Hubbard , asami@FreeBSD.ORG, hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: We seriously need a cleanup on ftp-master Message-ID: <20010507170242.K3246@casimir.physics.purdue.edu> Reply-To: Will Andrews References: <20010507125604P.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010507163119.H3246@casimir.physics.purdue.edu> <20010507144618.A12252@dragon.nuxi.com> <20010507164650.J3246@casimir.physics.purdue.edu> <20010507150006.C12252@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <20010507150006.C12252@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@FreeBSD.ORG on Mon, May 07, 2001 at 03:00:06PM -0700 X-Operating-System: Linux 2.2.18 sparc64 Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 03:00:06PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > You have a lot of faith in our users. I don't participate in > questions@freebsd.org, so I do what I can to avoid having to send people > there. I don't care about moving say 4.1-R packages to somewhere very > hard to find as I don't have any 4.1-R hosts anymore, but I do know > people that do. I brought this up with the hopes that we will stop and > take a moment to thing about the ramifications. That's all. Yeah, I guess I do. > Er, no one will mirror them from FreeBSD-archive. So where will they get > them from? ftp-master.freebsd.org is not for user consumption. ftp.freebsd.org? That's the default site too. :) Perhaps a symlink to older package sets would be enough? Not sure how rsync/ftp handles symlinks. > If it is truly just a disk space issue, we should investigate if we can > get subsidized disks for well-connected mirrors. > Heck, 50GB is a typical personal MP3 collection. > > BW is really the issue, what is expensive, and what we lack. Yup, but space is also an issue and should not be ignored. Sites that mirror FreeBSD are likely to mirror other software archives. There's no reason to force the mirror operator to decide between RedHat and FreeBSD, for example. Reducing the overall size of the archive would also reduce the time to update a mirror, as well as the bandwidth needed for such activity. > Disclaimer: Not speaking for FreeBSD, just expressing my own opinion. Same. -- wca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message