From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 8 10:17:26 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E041137B401 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 10:17:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 238C943FB1 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 10:17:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.12.8/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h48HHPTl020707 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 11:17:25 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200305081717.h48HHPTl020707@harmony.village.org> To: arch@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 08 May 2003 09:56:30 PDT." <20030508165630.GA55207@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20030508165630.GA55207@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030508.094206.68986125.imp@bsdimp.com> Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 11:17:25 -0600 From: Warner Losh Subject: Re: Fw: /rescue X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 17:17:27 -0000 In message <20030508165630.GA55207@dragon.nuxi.com> "David O'Brien" writes: : On Thu, May 08, 2003 at 09:42:06AM -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote: : > Yep, .PATH does simplify things. Revised diff : > attached. Thanks for the suggestion. : : It was mostly decided to use /stand rather than /rescue as sticking with : FreeBSD's 10 year precidence is better than going with NetBSD's <1 yr : one. We've been phasing out /stand for a long time. What is in there now on 5.x? Nothing. I killed /stand before my last installworld because it hasn't been updated since I did the initial install on my system. There's no reason to keep it around, and it is needlessly different than NetBSD. : It was also felt this patch puts way too much into /stand -- like vi : (rather than edit) and dhclient for instance. /stand should be just : enough to recover a system by a *skilled* person. I disagree. I think it keeps a good amount of stuff in there. Sure, I can do an echo * rather than an ls, but the binary is so small and disk space so cheap it makes no sense to have to force it so that only uber-studs can use it. I think we should have all the binaries in /sbin or /bin, but with an appended -rescue. Can we please not get into the bikesheds over this? Warner