From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 14 06:18:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1C939572 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 2014 06:18:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk", Issuer "ca.infracaninophile.co.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BCAE8164F for ; Mon, 14 Apr 2014 06:18:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.8/8.14.8) with ESMTP id s3E6IOgk097055 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 14 Apr 2014 07:18:24 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk s3E6IOgk097055 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/s3E6IOgk097055; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <534B7DA5.7050404@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 07:18:13 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: developer be a good administrator too : mandatory? References: <20140414031040.GA816@h61m.kathe.in> In-Reply-To: <20140414031040.GA816@h61m.kathe.in> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="QfdMHo4QlAnaKqQ0rr8GExHlsHc2SHv4G" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.1 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 06:18:38 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --QfdMHo4QlAnaKqQ0rr8GExHlsHc2SHv4G Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 14/04/2014 04:10, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > i am re-training to be a software developer, because, i've > realized that it is what i love to do. >=20 > the question that's popping up in my mind is; > "is it necessary for a freebsd developer (c89) to also be a > great system administrator?". The c89 standard is pretty old hat nowadays -- most new FreeBSD code assumes c99 if not more recent. Still, it's no big deal to update yourself on C coding standards. > the rationale i've heard is that if you can't handle your > own freebsd system, how are you going to get productive! FreeBSD developers need to be able to manage their own systems to the extent that they can install or upgrade the systems they are working on, so they can test out the changes they make. Whether this counts as being a 'great system administrator' lies in the eye of the beholder. Of course, the primary direct consumers of the FreeBSD 'product' are mostly systems administrators (whether that is part of their job description or not). So you have to know quite a lot about their needs and requirements in order to write great software for them. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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