From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 12 20:49:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6CDAB0E; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 20:49:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from mail.ebusiness-leidinger.de (mail.ebusiness-leidinger.de [217.11.53.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6690E8FC12; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 20:49:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from outgoing.leidinger.net (p57A384CF.dip.t-dialin.net [87.163.132.207]) by mail.ebusiness-leidinger.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id ACCD6844096; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 22:49:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from unknown (IO.Leidinger.net [192.168.1.12]) by outgoing.leidinger.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2DA452496; Fri, 12 Oct 2012 22:49:19 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=leidinger.net; s=outgoing-alex; t=1350074959; bh=7eTucjhFmJhB5S/4pLGgSX4CewKknQZ75t853xUIvTY=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=OMfq5t7u6Ue+U9Dfv6zT54IMMPL2417sg09LGCje8gzSJZOZow2UuDCJ8eETqoW/3 0mM/L+K/28aYUVZkKQC6u2cySjpsYLZO+cbeDbk5aXk+vWnfLXOhadEMZjD/NRm8Zi Dhm3G9URAinmcyIGY7j6jfflTXq6qlLt2Hi4ABcunffl2K/VA+E/THE0W9QBeI8JSw 6s0EAYgZ2cnXls+sZYo/fzsA3fnVar1DKKRApZ9aVgUSbmWAo9wy4Wi84MD3hUWouW /m0dbbnaiQ4FG+V3J4x+KlpGJBGu0BTRTczUpjeNGYZN02HcFnZM5MSkr+ScgpGS5x Jmy4nbSjjfQ/A== Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 22:49:18 +0200 From: Alexander Leidinger To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, uqs@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Buying recommendation for silent router/fileserver Message-ID: <20121012224918.00002a69@unknown> In-Reply-To: <20121012115106.GZ69724@acme.spoerlein.net> References: <20121011145453.GU69724@acme.spoerlein.net> <20121011170546.27d63bbd@suse3> <20121012090310.GW69724@acme.spoerlein.net> <5077F8FB.3050307@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de> <20121012115106.GZ69724@acme.spoerlein.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0cvs30 (GTK+ 2.24.10; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-EBL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-EBL-MailScanner-ID: ACCD6844096.A27B5 X-EBL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-EBL-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, spamhaus-ZEN, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-1.107, required 6, autolearn=disabled, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, AWL 0.00, DKIM_SIGNED 0.10, DKIM_VALID -0.10, DKIM_VALID_AU -0.10, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD -0.01) X-EBL-MailScanner-From: alexander@leidinger.net X-EBL-MailScanner-Watermark: 1350679763.20355@Tahgt22+gquPYy/KJWmUvw X-EBL-Spam-Status: No X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 20:49:33 -0000 On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 13:51:06 +0200 Ulrich Sp=F6rlein wrote: > For longevity, I'd have a bit more confidence if this was an IvyBridge > system ... Now that FreeBSD somewhat supports the Intel HD graphics, I > might even slap on XBMC. And yes, living room + low noise is key, aka > Wife Acceptance Factor > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wife_acceptance_factor) Fans are not evil. The trick is to use very big ones which run slowly and quiet. Have a look for: - big/normal but nice case (for air-flow reasons with the benefit of space for hard drives and you can change parts inside later at will without space problems), let your significant other chose it - biiiig CPU cooler (Scyte, Noctua, Thermalright, ...) - big CPU fan (12cm / 14cm... big ones can run slow and silent) - low power CPU - at leat one big case fan (12cm) - 40 EUR fan-less Nvidia card - 80 Plus Platinum PSU I have a system which is like this, big case with 5 harddisks and a ssd, a big case fan blowing on it (speed adjustable, but already with a very slow and quiet setting the disks don't heat up) in direction of the CPU, the fan of the CPU more or less not turning (the CPU coolers which come with big CPU fans have a temperature controlled fan most of the time), and a second big case fan sucking out the air on the top of the case. The fan of the PSU is also temperature controlled, and very quiet (in case the fan should turn at all). With this you can put inside whatever you want. For your use case maybe a Core i3/5 CPU with a low max-TDP (30-40W instead of the usual 95). Together with a fan-less NVidia GeForce GT 520 card (40 EUR) you can have plenty of horse power (for your envisioned use-case) but you don't hear it (except you put your ear directly beneath the case). Such a system may be not as flexible to hide as the one you talked about initially, but you have the possibility to upgrade easily and as necessary. Bye, Alexander. --=20 http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net: PGP ID =3D B0063FE7 http://www.FreeBSD.org netchild @ FreeBSD.org : PGP ID =3D 72077137