From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 27 14:20:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CA0516A417 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 14:20:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hausen@punkt.de) Received: from kagate.punkt.de (kagate.punkt.de [217.29.33.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AEE443D77 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 14:19:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hausen@punkt.de) Received: from hugo10.ka.punkt.de (hugo10.ka.punkt.de [10.0.0.110]) by kagate1.punkt.de with ESMTP id k8REJteZ023587 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 16:19:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hugo10.ka.punkt.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hugo10.ka.punkt.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k8REJta9085813 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 16:19:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ry93@hugo10.ka.punkt.de) Received: (from ry93@localhost) by hugo10.ka.punkt.de (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id k8REJt7N085812 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 16:19:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ry93) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 16:19:55 +0200 From: "Patrick M. Hausen" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060927141955.GB84976@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> References: <451A1375.5080202@gneto.com> <20060927071538.GF22229@e-Gitt.NET> <451A4189.5020906@samsco.org> <20060927094509.GB75104@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> <451A71B6.6040201@crc.u-strasbg.fr> <20060927132555.GB83422@hugo10.ka.punkt.de> <20060927135251.GA13222@icarus.home.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060927135251.GA13222@icarus.home.lan> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.10i Subject: Re: 6.2 SHOWSTOPPER - em completely unusable on 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 14:20:06 -0000 Hi! On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 06:52:51AM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 03:25:55PM +0200, Patrick M. Hausen wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 02:42:30PM +0200, Philippe Pegon wrote: > > > it's just a me too. On our ftp server (ftp8.fr.freebsd.org), sometimes > > > we see some "watchdog timeout" in the log with a bge card, but maybe it's > > > not the same problem... : > > > > As far as I know the watchdog timeouts are _supposed_ to be > > mostly harmless, i.e. recoverable. > > You'll still see impact -- that is, no packets flowing. The > reason things are recoverable is solely because of the retry > functionality for layer 2 packets... You are, of course, right. What I meant is: these timeouts should not lead to freezing of all network communications for a couple of minutes like me and some other people seem to experience. TCP and most UDP based upper level protocols will recover gently from a lost packet or two. Regards, Patrick -- punkt.de GmbH Internet - Dienstleistungen - Beratung Vorholzstr. 25 Tel. 0721 9109 -0 Fax: -100 76137 Karlsruhe http://punkt.de