From owner-freebsd-arch Wed Dec 20 1:11:10 2000 From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 20 01:11:09 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.dk (freebsd.dk [212.242.42.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 321AE37B400 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 01:11:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sos@localhost) by freebsd.dk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id KAA40784; Wed, 20 Dec 2000 10:15:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sos) From: Soren Schmidt Message-Id: <200012200915.KAA40784@freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: gensetdefs using sh(1),sed(1),grep(1) and awk(1) In-Reply-To: <20001220003833.K19572@fw.wintelcom.net> from Alfred Perlstein at "Dec 20, 2000 00:38:33 am" To: bright@wintelcom.net (Alfred Perlstein) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 10:15:46 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG, imp@village.org (Warner Losh) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It seems Alfred Perlstein wrote: > * David O'Brien [001220 00:35] wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 01:29:07AM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > > > I don't see what the big deal is in requiring perl is anyway. > > > > Because the festing pile of sh*t doesn't build properly too often. > > How many reports have you seen of people who have a lot of trouble with > > perl when upgrading? We should make it so one can turn Perl off in the > > world build, and still be able to build a kernel. > > > > Once running on a new kernel and new mostly-complete userland, they can > > re-try bulding the world with perl. > > This is a bogus argument, people may have problems _compiling_ perl, > but I've never heard of anyone having problems with the installed > perl. Ooohhh, do I have news for you then :) At work we have nothing but trouble between various versions (or is that subversions) of perl, its evil evil _evil_ EVIL.. > > > What makes it different than awk or sh or sed? > > > > They always build. > > And perl 'always' works. No it does not, I stand with David here, get that perl crap out of the kernel build, its hard to maintain (impossible if you didn't write it yourself not too long ago) and we shouldn't need perl to build the kernel, period. > What's your point? Whats yours ? -Søren - who is glad he can now speak freely :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message