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[91.59.226.14]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s17sm3969454wmh.41.2019.11.26.10.47.51 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 26 Nov 2019 10:47:52 -0800 (PST) From: Gary Jennejohn To: Michael Gmelin Cc: Warner Losh , "Rodney W. Grimes" , "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Killing Giant for 13 Message-ID: <20191126194750.3ff939c3@ernst.home> In-Reply-To: <20191126193555.047a63cf@bsd64.grem.de> References: <201911260917.xAQ9Hcf1001914@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> <20191126193555.047a63cf@bsd64.grem.de> Reply-To: gljennjohn@gmail.com X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.4 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd13.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47MtFQ5cRMz48G6 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=kNNvpz1a; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of gljennjohn@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::435 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=gljennjohn@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[gljennjohn@gmail.com]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-9.42), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.70), asn: 15169(-1.95), country: US(-0.05)]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[14.226.59.91.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-arch@freebsd.org]; FREEMAIL_REPLYTO(0.00)[gmail.com]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[5.3.4.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 29 Jan 2020 20:44:20 +0000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2019 18:47:55 -0000 X-Original-Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2019 19:47:50 +0100 X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2019 18:47:55 -0000 On Tue, 26 Nov 2019 19:35:55 +0100 Michael Gmelin wrote: > On Tue, 26 Nov 2019 11:21:20 -0700 > Warner Losh wrote: > > > > However, the hpt27xx driver turns out not to be Giant locked on > > versions of FreeBSD >= 10. So it's off the list. > > Is that a real list that could be made publicly available, so users can > check if any of the hardware they use will be affected? > cd /usr/src/sys grep -Rl D_NEEDGIANT (assuming the user has the right permissions) Drivers which use GIANT have this somewhere in their code. I found 30 C file hits in HEAD. -- Gary Jennejohn