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Date:      Sun, 09 Sep 2001 19:10:10 -0700
From:      Soren Kristensen <soren@soekris.com>
To:        Bsdguru@aol.com
Cc:        msmith@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: PCI probe reordering?
Message-ID:  <3B9C2102.4AC887E1@soekris.com>
References:  <6f.1a7105ea.28cd5bb7@aol.com>

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Hi,

Aren't operating systems supposed to use the PCI BIOS calls for finding
devices ? So the scanning order would then be controlled by the BIOS,
and then always follow the intent of the hardware manufacturer ? Or is
there problems with their intent ?


Regards,


Soren


Bsdguru@aol.com wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 9/9/01 5:21:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> msmith@freebsd.org writes:
> 
> > The entire PCI probe/attach process is going to have to change, however I
> >  don't see it changing all that much.  It is hard to detect devices that
> >  are "onboard" as opposed to being in physical slots, and there is no
> >  consistent mechanism that one can take to always get them "first".
> >
> >  In short, what you're asking for is difficult to achieve consistently,
> >  and not really worth the effort.  Your onboard ethernet is fxp1.  Deal
> >  with it.
> >
> 
> "Worth it" depends on what you care about, I suppose. But a commercial
> vendor, using freebsd as a platform, will "care" if one motherboard scans one
> way and another scans differently, as you cant tell customers "well, if you
> have this product the ports are this way, and if you have that product the
> ports are another way". While there may not be a generic way to always do it
> the way one expects, it doesnt seem unreasonable to have a mechanism to
> override the default probe that isnt a nightmare to implement.
> 
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