From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon May 7 04:22:58 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 669D1FCEEF8 for ; Mon, 7 May 2018 04:22:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (mail.sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC7AC72B4D for ; Mon, 7 May 2018 04:22:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.98.5_1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from [212.73.125.240] (HELO admin.sibptus.transneft.ru) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPS id 40006553; Mon, 07 May 2018 11:22:56 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w474MuWT054180; Mon, 7 May 2018 11:22:56 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id w474MtTi054179; Mon, 7 May 2018 11:22:55 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.transneft.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 11:22:55 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: AikiZen Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Alternative to x11/gnome3 ? Message-ID: <20180507042255.GB53740@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> References: <20180429140256.GA8201@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <20180505012642.6f351370@WorkMachine> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20180505012642.6f351370@WorkMachine> Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.dreamwidth.org/pubkey?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 May 2018 04:22:58 -0000 AikiZen wrote: > > > > What alternative to x11/gnome3 can you advise? > > > > I would like a more lightweight desktop environment, however it MUST > > support switching between GUI users without logging out (like > > Ubuntu or Windows). > > > > I tried Mate but it does not seem to be able to switch between users > > without logging out (at least the display manager Mate comes with > > cannot do that). > > > > Thanks in advance for any input. > > > > hi victor, > > this day i think about code a new interface style, in front of vt, like > haiku or else. > this interface start at the boot time and is between tty and X11. > > for this need rewrite an gtk3 library or ncurses library, i don't know. The best thing about X11 is the fact that it is networked, you can have a single display (X-server) and several apps (called X-clients) running on different hosts but drawing on your display. Similar to published apps in Citrix, but you need no Citrix, actually not anything besides Xorg itself (all is built-in). The thing you suggest will be lacking this feature. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN AS43859