From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 24 16:30:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7418A16A400 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:30:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@arnold.se) Received: from mailstore.infotropic.com (mailstore.infotropic.com [213.136.34.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0D6713C46A for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:30:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@arnold.se) Received: (qmail 41736 invoked by uid 89); 24 Feb 2008 16:03:18 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.2.0 ppid: 41731, pid: 41733, t: 0.1040s scanners: attach: 1.2.0 clamav: 0.90/m:42 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.123.123?) (chris@arnold.se@82.182.86.134) by mailstore.infotropic.com with ESMTPA; 24 Feb 2008 16:03:18 -0000 Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 17:03:17 +0100 (CET) From: Christopher Arnold X-X-Sender: chris@localhost To: hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20080224100924.c8e08776.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> Message-ID: <20080224165956.X34646@localhost> References: <47C06E1F.5020308@thedarkside.nl> <760775.85636.qm@web50306.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20080223203316.GC38485@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> <20080224100924.c8e08776.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> X-message-flag: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Outlook_isn=B4t_compliant_with_current_standards?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_please_install_another_mail_client!?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Subject: Re: Security Flaw in Popular Disk Encryption Technologies X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:30:01 -0000 On Sun, 24 Feb 2008, Bill Moran wrote: > Or laptop vendors could make "secure" laptops that always lose memory > on shutdown. > That dosn't really change anything, just don't shutdown the laptop. Cut an opening in the case and attach a probe to monitor memory access and wait for the key being accessed. /Chris -- http://www.arnold.se/