From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Oct 16 18:36:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA21501 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 18:36:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from po2.glue.umd.edu (po2.glue.umd.edu [129.2.128.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA21496 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 18:36:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilligan.eng.umd.edu (gilligan.eng.umd.edu [129.2.103.21]) by po2.glue.umd.edu (8.8.0/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA07017; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 21:36:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by gilligan.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA25924; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 21:36:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: gilligan.eng.umd.edu: chuckr owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 21:36:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@gilligan.eng.umd.edu To: Terry Lambert cc: Gary Clark II , phk@critter.tfs.com, brians@mandor.dev.com, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IP bugs in FreeBSD 2.1.5 In-Reply-To: <199610162356.QAA04264@phaeton.artisoft.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 16 Oct 1996, Terry Lambert wrote: > > Terry Lambert wrote: > > > > If people who use FreeBSD in a commercial setting paid 2% of what it > > > > would have cost them to do the same with shrink-wrapped software, > > > > and private users paid 1% to the FreeBSD Projects funds, then I would > > > > be much more inclined to listen to them and help them. > > > > > > $39.95 (the price of a FreeBSD CDROM) is 5 times the 2% figure you > > > cite for most OS's, and twice the figure you cite for BSDI: > > > > This is only from Wallnut Creek. You can find them alot cheaper than > > that around. > > OK, then take 4%-10% and convert it to 2%-5% for $19.95, and for the > business user, you still hit your 2% threshold with room to spare. > > > > SCO > > > $400/$40 = 10 > > > 1/10 = 10% > > Is this the FULL package? > > Yes. > > > Development also? > > Yes. GNU tools, just like FreeBSD. > > > Unlimted user? > > Yes... as "unlimited" as SVR4 gets... > > > Networking? > > Yes. > > > > BSDI > > > $1000/$40 = 25 > > > 1/25 = 4% > > How much is the BSDI source license up to now? > > Who cares; we are talking about users who don't hack the kernel. > > > How much is a unlimted user license? > > $1000, last time I checked. > > > NOTE: Please tell me if BSDI has went back to $1000 source and unlimted user, > > I've got a customer running 2.1 I love to have source for. > > Clearly you are a candidate for "FreeBSD SNAP tester", with your > preoccupation with compiling things... 8-). Before I used to be part of FreeBSD, I used to pay for Unix. I think Terry hasn't priced Unix lately, because I know _I_ bought the fully decked out versions, am they were one hell of a lot more. The last time I bought them was 4 years ago, I kinda doubt Terry price assertions, on the full model. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd..edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+-----------------------------------------------