From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 4 10:16:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 944C01065689 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 10:16:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E741E8FC12 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 10:16:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from vhoffman-macbook.local (150.117-84-212.staticip.namesco.net [212.84.117.150]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m84AGZLV099897 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 4 Sep 2008 11:16:36 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <48BFB564.2000802@unsane.co.uk> Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 11:16:04 +0100 From: Vincent Hoffman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Jeremy References: <35445338-D597-4FE2-996F-DEC7BE986741@airwired.net> <20080903191454.GA15376@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <20080904085415.GG15376@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> In-Reply-To: <20080904085415.GG15376@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Dan Allen , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.1 Content X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 10:16:17 -0000 Peter Jeremy wrote: > On 2008-Sep-03 15:53:30 -0600, Dan Allen wrote: > >> I see. I was thinking of FreeBSD 7.0 whose disc1 is 509 MB in size, >> leaving almost 200 MB free for a standard 700 MB CD. >> > > I missed that the disc layous have been rearranged and disc1 is now > somewhat emptier than when I last looked. However, you've missed a > few points as well: > 1) Currently, the contents of each disk is the same on each architecture. > Changing this is possible but would be very confusing to users. > sparc64 appears to be the largest and disk1 is over 600MB. > 2) Traditionally, the ISO images have been sized to fit on 650MB CD-RWs. > Maybe this should be revisited but during a release freeze is not > the right time for that. > 3) It's desirable to leave some slack so that a slight size increase in > the final builds doesn't necessitate re-working the CD layouts. > > >> Ubuntu 8.04 has room for [the kitchen sink] >> > > For most architectures, disc1 includes a live filesystem. This is > very useful for recovery purposes. Since FreeBSD does not include > cloop or similar compressed FS support, this takes a fair amount of > space. And you've already pointed out that disc1 includes sources > (which you want to keep). > > Actually FreeBSD does support a compressed (read only) filesystem, geom_uzip(4) This is used by freesbie if I remember rightly. However it does mean you cannot just mount and browse the install cd with the generic kernel, and I'd guess it bumps up the base system requirements. Vnce >> Here is a quick list (not exhaustive or definitive) of the libraries >> that Firefox 3.0 requires, and their sizes in bytes: >> > > Note that you need to include the space needed by the packages for all > the FF3 dependencies, not just the shared libraries. > > >> These total 27696575 bytes or 26.4 MB. >> > > Including the full list of runtime dependencies, FF3 needs 120 packages, > totalling 89MB (already bzip'd) on i386. > >