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Date:      Wed, 29 Dec 2021 10:21:01 +0000
From:      bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org
To:        x11@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   [Bug 237544] graphics/drm-fbsd12.0-kmod: panic on 12-STABLE with Radeon HD 7450 (but not with drm-fbsd11.2-kmod)
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--- Comment #10 from Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@FreeBSD.org> ---
(In reply to Emmanuel Vadot from comment #9)
> Also I don't see why we should give the possibility to users to install
> old drivers
Because with every Linux version bump (4.11 -> 4.16 -> 5.4) come not only f=
ixes
and better support, but also various regressions.

> instead we should fix bugs in newer version if one have a problem,
> something that I and others do regularly based on reports.
Ideally yes, but bugs arrive at a higher rate than fixes, unfortunately.

> It's also using the radeonkms driver which have more or less been abandon=
ware
> upstream
I can't care less for its status so long as it delivers and works perfectly=
.=20
On a larger scale, I've noticed that often abandonware means lack of proble=
ms,
while supported means "prepare for a bump ride".  Go figure! :)

> Did you open a PR here or on the github page for drm-kmod?
We had discussed that in a different email, I will once I have concrete
reproducible results with at least some preliminary analysis (e.g., revisio=
n or
approximate date of regression).  Vague reports are likely to be closed as
overcome by events.

> This kind of comment is really hurtful, demotivating and simply mean.
I'm sorry, but I think you got me wrong.  I appreciate the work you guys put
into this shit, esp. given the limited resources we have, but with Linux be=
ing
our upstream, it should not come as a surprise as Linux is known for its
mediocre quality.  I mean, it's most likely not your fault in the first pla=
ce,
but what we're being fed.

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