From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 29 22:07:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F7461065670; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 22:07:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from feld.me (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1EC58FC12; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 22:07:56 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:Content-Type; bh=0Z91cJ7cu6JXBVRWd4Zkfxa6wwHBJJnj2Hr66vxdsTQ=; b=P5Sp4SjhY9Qdi7AoO3zNhrP4pCy4TO+RFxdwUdTxX36QZlLT3Rqod6ausHx0kozZAcUtakTXv8mjY1w/a6Ea1rjUJbG5C8u6F79dQqTnUcjMEZCQhQEpdSK/Yw0IQl3D; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by feld.me with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1SDNVa-0003cj-98; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 17:07:56 -0500 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpa id 1333058867-20726-20725/5/32; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 22:07:47 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <201203291549.q2TFnUc7080406@aurora.sol.net> <201203291755.36651.hselasky@c2i.net> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 17:07:47 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.62 (FreeBSD) X-SA-Score: -1.5 Cc: Adam Vande More Subject: Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 22:07:57 -0000 On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 15:53:52 -0500, Adam Vande More =20 wrote: > > Doesn't VMWare offer different types of emulated disk controllers? If = =20 > so, > that might be the easiest way to narrow the field. Another thing = maybe =20 > to > try would be to backport the mpt Yes, they offer Paravirtual (not applicable for FreeBSD), LSI Parallel =20 (default option), LSI SAS, and Buslogic (not available for 64bit). Both LSI SAS and LSI Parallel use the mpt driver. > > Also, it's not VMWare's place to claim "not our problem" when you are > paying for support. If this doesn't happen on bare metal, it's a = VMWare > issue, or they need to demonstrate it's not their issue. At least that > would be the expectation I have. You're right, but we've thrown a ton of money at their support and had =20 direct phone access to their engineers. The best we can get out of them = is =20 "no indication this is a VMWare problem". It's easy for them to blow =20 people off when they're as big as they've grown to be. > There is also a comment on this post indicating someone else with the =20 > issue > and who has received unofficial vmware feedback. > > http://www.hailang.me/tech/virtual/freebsd-vmware-esx-a-weird-error-wit= h-san-storage/ I found that post ages ago and that's me, "mf", as the only person to =20 comment on it. Unfortunately our problem does not align with what he's =20 describing. > > And then there is this one with similar symptoms and a workaround: > > http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=3D27899 > I'm now investigating those loader.conf options. I have my crashy = machine =20 set to use them on next boot so we'll see if it crashes now that I'm = using =20 LSI SAS emulated controller. If it still crashes, we'll see what happens = =20 after that with those loader.conf options enabled.