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Date:      Thu, 29 Mar 2012 17:07:47 -0500
From:      Mark Felder <feld@feld.me>
To:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org
Cc:        Adam Vande More <amvandemore@gmail.com>
Subject:   Re: Please help me diagnose this crazy VMWare/FreeBSD 8.x crash
Message-ID:  <op.wbyc29ag34t2sn@tech304>
In-Reply-To: <CA%2BtpaK3UAx4cU3zRWPOo=PqmA0wZH9GbVZ9vAEeenUpD8Mitgw@mail.gmail.com>
References:  <201203291549.q2TFnUc7080406@aurora.sol.net> <201203291755.36651.hselasky@c2i.net> <op.wbxxb9cz34t2sn@tech304> <CAJUyCcNn%2B8uDrWGJMUD8vmmJKLA0iJjy6bhDSZvGB82X6awAPw@mail.gmail.com> <op.wbx2n80s34t2sn@tech304> <CA%2BtpaK3UAx4cU3zRWPOo=PqmA0wZH9GbVZ9vAEeenUpD8Mitgw@mail.gmail.com>

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On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 15:53:52 -0500, Adam Vande More =20
<amvandemore@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Doesn't VMWare offer different types of emulated disk controllers?  If =
=20
> so,
> that might be the easiest way to narrow the field.  Another thing =
maybe =20
> to
> try would be to backport the mpt

Yes, they offer Paravirtual (not applicable for FreeBSD), LSI Parallel =20
(default option), LSI SAS, and Buslogic (not available for 64bit).

Both LSI SAS and LSI Parallel use the mpt driver.

>
> Also, it's not VMWare's place to claim "not our problem" when you are
> paying for support.  If this doesn't happen on bare metal, it's a =
VMWare
> issue, or they need to demonstrate it's not their issue.  At least that
> would be the expectation I have.

You're right, but we've thrown a ton of money at their support and had =20
direct phone access to their engineers. The best we can get out of them =
is =20
"no indication this is a VMWare problem". It's easy for them to blow =20
people off when they're as big as they've grown to be.

> There is also a comment on this post indicating someone else with the =20
> issue
> and who has received unofficial vmware feedback.
>
> http://www.hailang.me/tech/virtual/freebsd-vmware-esx-a-weird-error-wit=
h-san-storage/

I found that post ages ago and that's me, "mf", as the only person to =20
comment on it. Unfortunately our problem does not align with what he's =20
describing.

>
> And then there is this one with similar symptoms and a workaround:
>
> http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=3D27899
>

I'm now investigating those loader.conf options. I have my crashy =
machine =20
set to use them on next boot so we'll see if it crashes now that I'm =
using =20
LSI SAS emulated controller. If it still crashes, we'll see what happens =
=20
after that with those loader.conf options enabled.





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