From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 27 07:53:08 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 646E716A4CE for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2005 07:53:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from titan.open-networks.net (dsl-202-173-176-254.qld.westnet.com.au [202.173.176.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A80043D5F for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2005 07:53:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from timothy@open-networks.net) Received: from [192.168.1.200] (unknown [192.168.1.1]) by titan.open-networks.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBB4EA7E; Sun, 27 Feb 2005 17:53:04 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <42217C60.4030405@open-networks.net> Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 17:53:04 +1000 From: Timothy Smith User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (X11/20041023) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Mittelstaedt , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Is Yahoo! moving from FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 07:53:08 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org wrote: > > >>Jon Drews writes: >> >> >> >>>If you think the FreeBSD community is a "nightmare" then why are you >>>sticking around except to stir up strife ? >>> >>> >>It's the closest thing to support available for FreeBSD. There's >>nothing else. >> >>I do note, however, that only about 10% of my questions to the list >>actually generate useful answers. The other questions either get no >>replies at all, or vague replies that really aren't useful, or pure >>guesses. One gets the impression that nobody really knows anything >>about FreeBSD, or, if anybody does, he never replies to this list. >> >> >> > >That is bullshit. Take your recent request regarding firefox. I told >you exactly how to do it - install ports, run portupgrade, then make >install in the firefox directory. > >I did exactly that Monday evening on a system I was setting up and it >worked perfectly. > >I also told you not to screw with the precompiled firefox package, and >you did it anyway, and you had problems. > > > >>Indeed, the only messages that generate replies are those that suggest >>that FreeBSD is anything other than sweetness and light. Serious >>questions about how to use the software are met by a deafening >>silence in too many cases. >> >>That's why I say what I do on my Web site. Anyone thinking of running >>FreeBSD in a production environment needs on-site experts to deal with >>it, because they'll never get any help from anywhere else. >> >> > >Untrue. There's many of the core team that make a living consulting >with FreeBSD and that has been going on for years. > >What you really mean to say is that they will never get any CHEAP help >from anywhere else, whereas with Windows since it's common as dogshit, >there's enough activity in the huge number of Windows forums that >your bound to run across the answer to your question, for free, if you >fish around for it long enough. > >Ted >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > i've had everything i've ever asked about answered by multiple people, quickly and they have all be very insightful answers. what the parent poster needs to look at it not the quality of the answers, but the quality of his questions. no one is going to waste time deciphering some vague question like " freebsd doesn't work help me"