From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 21 17:12:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED31E106566C for ; Tue, 21 Apr 2009 17:12:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A38F58FC14 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 2009 17:12:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 3so933954qwe.7 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 2009 10:12:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=uVB2Obl7WgCZeiUEIpDqZ7KvTWiwsh/DjEraSt1eeBs=; b=HpUEIqD+Ot1tntheOZzQXtQxWU+ZgM6qrHji+orWSCYYosiK68h9sVg1cfJf3tZzMH SCanddkV1KeJ22eW6t+xLaqc0VwfLW/tKYWZyOW8bvkKAPLZWp/KlkM1H6zEeB6SlyG+ 2r2gTWC1cjYHCIdcPUu/9A2u6LRVIumSVHKZk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=oATbGoNHtkpUmkFqCeY4A/Z2oJqQ54IwIZ4JlL6F5HCJoJ2c9qHPNBUxlVurJMaOr7 A6ZocGac0k1USAWygQ2ZmsIJOxW6GLg2fZLxEVlA2o8Fq1TaFpvk33qLjSMvl/NKq227 pWT75pC1V2qKCUV0GkTfl27dPHKHBKUKBpsHw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.70.139 with SMTP id d11mr1184549qcj.51.1240332057062; Tue, 21 Apr 2009 09:40:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200904201317.44334.christof.schulze@gmx.net> References: <754723275-1240208442-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1046132361-@bxe1006.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> <49EC305D.4010202@NLnetLabs.nl> <20090420162802.5959c7fa@icy.local> <200904201317.44334.christof.schulze@gmx.net> Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 12:40:56 -0400 Message-ID: From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: Christof Schulze Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: 2d password X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 17:12:59 -0000 2009/4/20 Christof Schulze : > Am Montag 20 April 2009 11:28:02 schrieb K=E1=BB=B3 Anh, Hu=E1=BB=B3nh: >> [ ways of generating passwords] >> >> Finally I get into 2-d moving on the keyboard as described in my first >> post. I check some passwords in http://www.testyourpassword.com/ and see >> that some stupid patterns on keyboard show a "STRONG" status. I event >> get the BEST password with some simple moving around symbols and >> letters. > I good way to remember secure passwords was presented in the uptimes > magazine a while ago in an article about passwords and their security. > > Good passwords contain a lot of entropy. > Also the entropy of letters in the beginning of words seems to be higher > than the entropy towards the end of words in western languages. > The proposal that the author Thomas Maus is making is this: > > Pick a sentence and take the first character(s) from each word to be your > password. > > Example > "I like doing laundry wednesday evening 8pm." > > the resulting password would be: > "Ildlwe8p" > > It is easy to remember because the sentence is natural language. Also it = is > fairly easy to come up with. > This article provides some good insights into the effectivity of password > policies. The bottom line is that the way these policies are used today > cause weaker passwords because they work against the user. In the end som= e > proposals are made what to do to obtain better passwords and how to > implement a policy for stronger passwords. A jar of peanut butter nearby: at16g25%Tota A lantern battery: ada165Kinca --=20 --