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Date:      Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:00:10 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Alex Belits <abelits@genesyslab.com>
To:        stephen farrell <stephen@farrell.org>
Cc:        Adam Turoff <AdamT@smginc.com>, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Netscape: Linux a top priority (news.com article)
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSI.3.95.980409184303.2504I-100000@es1840.genesyslab.com>
In-Reply-To: <87d8eqsbib.fsf@phaedrus.uchicago.edu>

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On 9 Apr 1998, stephen farrell wrote:

> Adam Turoff <AdamT@smginc.com> writes:
> 
> > With all due respect though, the jihad should be against NT,
> > not against Linux.  Let an OpenSource OS gain mindshare from
> > the big buggy boys, and then it's a downhill battle.
> 
> Yes, but that's giving a lot of credit to linux.  I tried to get my
> dad set up with linux (i was using fbsd at the time, but thought
> redhat linux would be a little easier and it was more likely that he'd 
> run into someone else running it, etc).  Thing was it sucked ass.  He
> has so many problems with it that it totally turned him off to free
> software period. 

As a user of both I strongly disagree with this explanation. Newbies
or Windows users have with FreeBSD at least as much problems as with
Linux, and users with any kind of Unix experience mostly have none in both
cases unless strongly biased.

> I'm afraid of Linux giving a bad reputation to freebsd... linux just
> has too many damn stupid windows-like problems (i.e., needing to
> upgrade such-and-such system library/binary to run a new app; breaking 
> old stuff that worked; etc).

  FreeBSD has this problem with at least the same extent as most of Linux
distributions, and more than Red Hat with the sad, but probably still
justifiable exception of Red Hat 4.2 -> 5.0 transition that involves the
change of libc to libc6/glibc2 (BTW, more BSD-ish than libc5 that preceded
it). Linux itself (as the set of kernel, libraries and system utilities,
not the complete system) actually is remarkably independent from
individual components' upgrades.

> I think FreeBSD needs to just spread it's reputation of being the more
> conservative system that is rock-solid and fast into the mainstream
> press.

  Badmouthing Linux will unlikely give that impression.

>  Plus then it will continue to attract the audience it wants.
> I just read an article by a co-founder of Yahoo about freebsd... this
> is the kind of thing that needs coverage. (though this article might
> be really old?)
> 
> 	http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Bay/6986/yahoobsd.htm

--
Alex


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