From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 7 23:12:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C42116A418 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2008 23:12:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kabaev@gmail.com) Received: from hs-out-2122.google.com (hs-out-0708.google.com [64.233.178.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C48B13C468 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2008 23:12:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kabaev@gmail.com) Received: by hs-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id h53so169230hsh.11 for ; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 15:12:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type; bh=1DAFE/UuJI7OL64QjUojbvuK9VB387skPK1ObPbdbbs=; b=MyiRvDj/H+wUCC52/F2i29Cv5zo/nxun8AUIOpESE/5jYw9Atbb7+OeA8NzcfxkPsByiQvh5f7LVzAl7zb0LolJSz7leHCPRyP1CmYTRVfwvwfkH71Ih24O062qYD70SGV6urXkLGXdZn1JbFj4LNCQ+DSW3G5abR9/CWV/+XVQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type; b=YszQIoLPcqDZG99XgmqIHFDWgOiZz6HCtYS1x1cAWZiHuMEzyB386UdU/c+530jvKPR67uHKyrA18ntwZznsNgS8+6IECphtdzN8xg4Lt6B+JYdYhvg75JzP7AOwX1fJ4pKAulpOQh2oD+VodtbaDgp+TDZL2kReOsbMvKsnnF8= Received: by 10.142.226.2 with SMTP id y2mr3637065wfg.75.1199746037354; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 14:47:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from kan.dnsalias.net ( [24.218.183.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 71sm1806913wry.12.2008.01.07.14.47.15 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 07 Jan 2008 14:47:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 17:47:09 -0500 From: Alexander Kabaev To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080107174709.5afb7f7c@kan.dnsalias.net> In-Reply-To: <200801071807.04093.peter.schuller@infidyne.com> References: <47814EAB.70405@FreeBSD.org> <70e8236f0801070652i35643585k9ca5d55125d55ce9@mail.gmail.com> <200801071807.04093.peter.schuller@infidyne.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/Eyf8Bt6jEcC9WNhU3WZF3_c"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Subject: Re: Should we simply disallow ZFS on FreeBSD/i386? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 23:12:45 -0000 --Sig_/Eyf8Bt6jEcC9WNhU3WZF3_c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 18:06:55 +0100 Peter Schuller wrote: > > That's it on my loader.conf and for months now I haven't seen a > > panic. Why should I or anyone else happilly running ZFS on i386 be > > denied of doing so? >=20 > 100% agreement. >=20 > If you want to go to extremes, require the user to put=20 > zfs.zfs.run_on_32_bit_and_i_understand_i_am_an_idiot_and_this_is_not_reco= mmended=3D1=20 > in loader.conf, or else have the kernel panic by design on boot. >=20 > But don't make it totally impossible without patching the source, > *please*. >=20 > Obviously the exception is if development for i386 stops such that it > actually does not work. But disallowing it for artificial reasons... > please leave things like that to proprietary hardware/software > vendors trying to squeeze money of out consumers, and leave it out of > a free operation system. >=20 Just a note to put another '100% agreement' sign up. We have plenty of other FSes which are half-cooked and can easily hurt people, but nobody suggests removing them. Why ZFS should be singled out, it is in a way better shape than most of them. --=20 Alexander Kabaev --Sig_/Eyf8Bt6jEcC9WNhU3WZF3_c Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHgqvtQ6z1jMm+XZYRAs4uAJ9uWJyj1Efpv7MJ8NVcpRyScdM/DACg6+I+ QAfWxADjYpYVn017axq0ePk= =rwrR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/Eyf8Bt6jEcC9WNhU3WZF3_c--