From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 21:02:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C0A210656D0 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 21:02:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from doug-optiplex.ka9q.net (hub.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::36]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E783417A7B8 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 21:02:13 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4D793C55.5030707@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:02:13 -0800 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://SupersetSolutions.com/ User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110304 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Ports References: <488C7790-D3E2-4441-BEC8-DD26D8917181@freebsd.org> <4D792578.6000303@FreeBSD.org> <2B21F26B-D7EA-480B-BFA2-BD12DDDB7721@FreeBSD.org> <4D7932AC.1020508@FreeBSD.org> <883EDE8E-309A-497B-A9ED-2350AC1D2546@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <883EDE8E-309A-497B-A9ED-2350AC1D2546@FreeBSD.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 OpenPGP: id=1A1ABC84 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [HEADS UP] GNU make 3.82 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 21:02:23 -0000 On 03/10/2011 12:52, Ade Lovett wrote: > > On Mar 10, 2011, at 14:21 , Doug Barton wrote: >> What I'm suggesting is that the URL for the logs of that run get >> posted here, along with contacting the maintainers of the affected >> ports. Then let's see what people have to say about getting them >> fixed sooner rather than later. Can you explain why doing that >> would be a bad idea? > > Those 50 or so ports are not the complete picture. Some of them are > preventing other ports from being built. So, we cycle through an > -exp run adding USE_GMAKE=381 (it's not a library or anything, just > an executable, and in the context of clean building, only one or the > other will exist for a specific port -exp build, so there's no > question of interaction) until we have _all_ of the affected ports. > > Then the list gets posted somewhere, Great! > USE_GMAKE=381 goes active, That's the bit that we disagree on, but your unwillingness to answer the question I've posed twice now tells me clearly that you are determined to follow this course of action, so I give up. >> I admire your optimism, however experience tells us that once these >> types of accomodations get into the tree, they stay there for a >> long time. > > There is no issue of optimism about it. gmake-3.82 _will_ be the > sole version of GNU make in the tree by (at latest) the end of this > year. You've already slipped your deadline from 6 months firm, to 6-7 months, now to 9 months in the course of just a few emails. I'd be willing to wager $BEVERAGE of your choice that we enter 2012 with multiple gmakes in the ports tree. But like I said, I'd be glad to be proven wrong. :) Doug -- Nothin' ever doesn't change, but nothin' changes much. -- OK Go Breadth of IT experience, and depth of knowledge in the DNS. Yours for the right price. :) http://SupersetSolutions.com/