From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 30 21:00:40 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D16316A4CE; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:00:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06EE243F85; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:00:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hB14xtvX042895; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:59:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id hB14xqng042894; Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:59:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:59:52 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: "Maxim M. Kazachek" , ports@freebsd.org, Richard Coleman , Kris Kennaway , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Oliver Eikemeier Message-ID: <20031201045952.GB42765@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20031201092813.X355@sbk-gw.sibnet.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.2-BETA Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Subject: Re: Ports startup scripts in /etc/rc.d (Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 05:00:40 -0000 On Sun, Nov 30, 2003 at 11:47:24PM -0500, Robert Watson wrote: > On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Maxim M. Kazachek wrote: > > On Sun, 30 Nov 2003, Richard Coleman wrote: ..snip.. > For 5.2-CURRENT, I think we should revisit this issue with one of the > following conclusions winning out, and the rest being discarded as > flame-bait: > > (1) Combine / and /usr into a single file system by default, and add > /usr/local/etc/rc.d to the search order, with appropriate hacks to > handle old-style scripts. The devil will be in the bikeshed, but the > implementation is easy, except for the bit where we explain that > NFS-mounted /usr/local won't work too well. I would like to show support for this option. I've been running /usr on the / partition on *all* my FBSD machines for the past 4 years. The reasons for having a separate / and /usr just don't apply today. Disks are large enough to hold both, and UFS(FFS) is stable. Sun and SGI both combine / and /usr on their pre-installed workstation machines.