Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 22:51:59 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein <bright@wintelcom.net> To: David Xu <bsddiy@163.net> Cc: Matt Dillon <dillon@earth.backplane.com>, Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>, Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>, Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>, Kirk McKusick <mckusick@mckusick.com>, Mikhail Teterin <mi@misha.privatelabs.com>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, Ruslan Ermilov <ru@FreeBSD.ORG>, fs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Re[2]: [kris@obsecurity.org: Re: cvs commit: src/etc rc] Message-ID: <20010514225159.L2009@fw.wintelcom.net> In-Reply-To: <1029181302.20010515121216@163.net>; from bsddiy@163.net on Tue, May 15, 2001 at 12:12:16PM %2B0800 References: <200105132342.QAA21879@beastie.mckusick.com> <200105142334.QAA05923@usr06.primenet.com> <20010515115630.H59553@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20010514193332.A85465@xor.obsecurity.org> <20010515120558.M59553@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20010514202707.B93481@xor.obsecurity.org> <200105150344.f4F3iVI45699@earth.backplane.com> <1029181302.20010515121216@163.net>
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* David Xu <bsddiy@163.net> [010514 21:09] wrote: > Hello Matt, > > Yes, I don't like background fsck too, it is too diffcult to manage, > I'll turn it off on my machine. a nice solution is a journal file > system. Really? A logging filesystem suffers from the same problems that softupdates background fsck does. Basically if you have crash because the disk suddenly starts spewing out errors those areas will remain broken even after the logging filesystem restarts. In fact it's quite possible that a logging filesystem will continue to trip over the same broken sectors unless something like Kirk's proposal is implemented, meaning a system halt followed by a "full" fsck. Of course I don't really expect you to understand any of this as you've proven pretty clue-resistant, I just mention it for the benifit of others who might be able to learn from the knowledge presented here. > when will FreeBSD have a journal file system? As soon as you, David Xu, programmer of the century implements it. bye, -- -Alfred Perlstein - [alfred@freebsd.org] Daemon News Magazine in your snail-mail! http://magazine.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-fs" in the body of the message
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