From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 24 10:32:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4468B16A41F for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 10:32:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stijn@pcwin002.win.tue.nl) Received: from pastinakel.tue.nl (pastinakel.tue.nl [131.155.2.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE3BE43D45 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 10:32:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stijn@pcwin002.win.tue.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pastinakel.tue.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5DC014BDCE; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 12:32:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pastinakel.tue.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pastinakel.tue.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 63290-01-6; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 12:31:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pcwin002.win.tue.nl (pcwin002.win.tue.nl [131.155.71.72]) by pastinakel.tue.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B30D114BDF1; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 12:15:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from stijn@localhost) by pcwin002.win.tue.nl (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j7OAF1U5074505; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 12:15:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from stijn) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 12:15:01 +0200 From: Stijn Hoop To: Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav Message-ID: <20050824101501.GH67999@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> References: <17161.55733.272571.61428@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20050822140150.GB27233@raqdevil.offmyserver.com> <20050822185748.22499.qmail@paladin.fortunaty.net> <20050823124028.GA67999@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> <1124872145.1476.5.camel@taxman.pepperland> <20050824083802.GG67999@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> <86zmr78y8q.fsf@xps.des.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="VUDLurXRWRKrGuMn" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86zmr78y8q.fsf@xps.des.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Bright-Idea: Let's abolish HTML mail! X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at tue.nl Cc: Andrew Gallatin , Andreas Hauser , "Devon H.O'Dell" , Stefan Ehmann , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, Eric Anderson Subject: Re: fontsize and dpi X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 10:32:12 -0000 --VUDLurXRWRKrGuMn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 11:45:09AM +0200, Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav wrote: > Stijn Hoop writes: > > I don't know when X gained the capability to decipher this on its own, = but > > I know that lots of people were running with 75dpi on 100dpi monitors, > > resulting in horrible default fonts etc. One of the problems with webpa= ges > > in *nix vs Windows, differing fontsizes, is caused by exactly this. >=20 > X will correctly determine the physical resolution on DDC-capable > monitors (with a DDC-capable graphics adapter, of course). Otherwise, > it assumes 75dpi. You can of course specify the correct resolution on > the command line, or (better yet) specify the display dimensions in > the configuration file and let X figure out the resolution. Yeah, I discovered that earlier in this thread. A nifty feature. The thing I was arguing against is the default of 75dpi in the absence of DDC (I run into this because of a crappy KVM switch). However, having no substantial evidence as to the common monitorsize and screen resolution, I don't know anymore whether it should be changed. > BTW, back in the bad old days before Xft, X had 75dpi and 100dpi > renderings of most fonts and no good way to adapt those to > intermediate resolutions. This is still the case for the most > commonly used monospace fonts. And like I wrote earlier, IMHO the TTF fonts are so much nicer than the 75dpi and 100dpi ones, that I promptly deinstall those two everywhere I can. But this is clearly a matter of personal preference. --Stijn --=20 There are of course many problems connected with life, of which some of the most popular are 'Why are people born?', 'Why do they die?', and `Why do they spend so much of the intervening time wearing digital watches?' -- Douglas Adams, "The Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy" --VUDLurXRWRKrGuMn Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDDEilY3r/tLQmfWcRAlIAAJ9jD8e8QNEckbwgonKZOFDgm0ReYgCdHyNd M+5NZYryo1F0CzUkF5VeEBs= =Z60k -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --VUDLurXRWRKrGuMn--