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Date:      Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:41:15 -0700
From:      Paul Allen <nospam@ugcs.caltech.edu>
To:        "M.Hirsch" <webmaster@hirsch.it>
Cc:        Dmitry Pryanishnikov <dmitry@atlantis.dp.ua>, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD 6.x CVSUP today crashes with zero load ...
Message-ID:  <20060627004115.GA12597@groat.ugcs.caltech.edu>
In-Reply-To: <44A06FFB.40104@hirsch.it>
References:  <20060626081029.L1114@ganymede.hub.org> <20060626140333.M38418@fledge.watson.org> <20060626235355.Q95667@atlantis.atlantis.dp.ua> <44A04FD2.1030001@hirsch.it> <20060627011512.N95667@atlantis.atlantis.dp.ua> <44A06233.1090704@hirsch.it> <20060627014335.E87535@atlantis.atlantis.dp.ua> <44A068A7.3090403@hirsch.it> <20060627020819.L3403@atlantis.atlantis.dp.ua> <44A06FFB.40104@hirsch.it>

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>From "M.Hirsch" <webmaster@hirsch.it>, Tue, Jun 27, 2006 at 01:38:35AM +0200:
> Sticks don't just break on a single bit. From my experience, a stick 
> that's got any problems at all, will cause even more trouble soon...
> If a hardware problem isn't worth panick'ing, what else is?
> (don't answer this one please, this was a rhetorical question - to those 
> who didn't get it...)
As has been mentioned by other people already: this position is severely 
ahistorical.  ECC has traditionally been motivated by a desire to
  1) provide reliable computing operations
  2) ensure high-availability (uptime)

The very originating purpose of ECC was to keep the computer going in the
face of an alpha particle strike. 

Alpha particles flip *single* bits.

ECC was never intended to detect crummy, failing hardware: that's a use
people have shoe-horned it into, but for which it is not entirely suited.





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