From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 24 20:42: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from laguna.i-next.net (laguna.i-next.net [202.61.68.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4D2437B406 for ; Tue, 24 Jul 2001 20:42:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jett@laguna.i-next.net) Received: from jett (bsd.i-next.net [202.61.68.75]) by laguna.i-next.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 6F10C24EA4; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 11:50:23 +0800 (PHT) Message-ID: <027a01c114ba$65ceaa80$4b443dca@jett> From: "Jett Tayer" To: "Jason DiCioccio" Cc: References: <030801c114ba$96287170$bf960340@jason8bo2vxz5e> Subject: Re: FreeBSD needs to awake and come out of SERVER only market! Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 11:32:13 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Come on man!, if u want some desktop performance go use windows. in my own opinion, freebsd is the powerful server OS there is and the most stable. Jett Tayer Interdotnet Phils. Systems Operations ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason DiCioccio" To: "Rev. K Kanno" ; "Sung Nae Cho" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 11:33 AM Subject: Re: FreeBSD needs to awake and come out of SERVER only market! > I don't think there are enough resources to do something like this. How can > someone predict what support you want in your servers? If you want your own > kernel, build it yourself.. Or build your own kernel/config file and use it > across all the servers assuming they're similar. I don't think the FreeBSD > team should have to have 10 different maintained kernel builds just to > satisfy everyone. > > Cheers, > -JD- > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rev. K Kanno" > To: "Sung Nae Cho" > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 3:51 PM > Subject: Re: FreeBSD needs to awake and come out of SERVER only market! > > > > On Tue, 24 Jul 2001, Sung Nae Cho wrote: > > > > I disagree. I'd like to know there is always a stable platform to run > server > > duties on for the intel platform. If I want a pretty desktop with 3 > trillion > > apps, I will run windows. > > > > This is just me, but I'm really sick of commenting out all the trash for > > dekstops from my kernel config files. I don't give a damn about human > > interface devices, USB and nonsense like that. Maybe there could be two > > versions of FreeBSD. A "stripped down" version for servers and maybe some > port > > or installation option that just adds the toys and nonsense desktop people > > seem to want for a workstation. > > > > Just an opinion. > > > > KEN > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > This is regarding that recent performance issue (Linux, Windows, > FreeBSD, > > > Solaris). I don't care what you (people who are so stuck up with > > > stability) think, I use FreeBSD as a desktop and I need performance! I > > > have "async" otpion turned on in my /etc/fstab, I'm glad the FreeBSD by > > > default enables the write cache for my hard disks. Come on, wake up! > > > FreeBSD is no longer for some dorky server administrator who does > nothing > > > but chewing on snickers bar sitting in corner of some room full of racks > > > and HDD's. And, I bet most people use FreeBSD for desktop use, not as > > > server use! I've shut down the computer by plugging the power plug out > > > just because I was upset or not in the moeed and all it cost me was some > > > extra time booting due to file system check. I've never had any of my > > > files, emails or anything like that being lost due to cold shutting my > > > computer. I'm sick of this server administrators always crying for > > > stability. If FreeBSD won't take use of all the capabilities offered in > > > todays hard drives, I won't be using it! I'll switch right over to > Linux. > > > Come on, desktop is the king and FreeBSD should focus itself evolving in > > > desktop market. If you gonna whine about stability, go back to FreeBSD > > > 2.x, 3.x. For me, FreeBSD 4.x, 5.x should be more desktop oriented, and > > > desktops need performance!!!!! > > > > > > > > > Sung N. Cho > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > > ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== > > The Exploding Fruit Challenge! Rev. K. Kanno > > > > www.energybeam.com blowup-fruit@energybeam.com > > ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message