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Date:      Thu, 15 Sep 2011 22:00:43 +0100
From:      Chris Rees <utisoft@gmail.com>
To:        Xin LI <delphij@gmail.com>
Cc:        Matthias Andree <matthias.andree@gmx.de>, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring).
Message-ID:  <CADLo838faqGHgASAFN_3ymzD17vVZB=7xno9zRR9HHg0vcC0yQ@mail.gmail.com>
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On 15 Sep 2011 21:28, "Xin LI" <delphij@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Chris Rees <utisoft@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 15 Sep 2011 20:52, "Matthias Andree" <matthias.andree@gmx.de> wrote:
> >>
> >> Am 15.09.2011 21:36, schrieb =C5=81ukasz W=C4=85sikowski:
> >>
> >> > BTW: You hate having a software update break your software. I hate
when
> >> > software updates turn off services on my servers. That's another
thing
> >> > portage do better - update won't turn off any service. You are
supposed
> >> > to restart services manually after doing etc-update. Speaking of
which -
> >> > another good idea worth adopting.
> >>
> >> Few ports stop services when getting deinstalled/upgraded, so it may b=
e
> >> worth pinging the affected ports' maintainers about it.
> >
> > Really? I thought it was supposed to be standard behaviour- the
@stopdaemon
> > line in pkg-plist facilitates that.
>
> While I totally understand why we do this, I have to say it's VERY
> VERY annoying behavior especially when one upgrading a remote system
> with multiple server daemon ports.  One have to watch the whole
> process carefully and restart the daemon manually.
>
> As part of symmetry, I think a reasonable behavior should be at least,
> if pkg_delete kills the daemon, pkg_add or make install should start
> it, and the user can optionally disable this behavior.
>

Hm, for my todo list :)

Chris



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