From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 12 03:28:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 029D316A4CE for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 03:28:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (hobbiton.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96E6E43D2D for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 03:28:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.161.222.227] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.43) id 1Cznx6-000Cpv-5L; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 20:28:12 -0700 In-Reply-To: <9C4E897FB284BF4DBC9C0DC42FB34617641AE9@mvaexch01.acuson.com> References: <9C4E897FB284BF4DBC9C0DC42FB34617641AE9@mvaexch01.acuson.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Message-Id: <1F1DF2BC-7CA6-11D9-B134-000D933E3CEC@shire.net> From: Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 20:28:11 -0700 To: Johnson David X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.161.222.227 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0 (2004-09-13) on hobbiton.shire.net X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.0.0 X-Spam-Level: X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.1+cvs (built Mon, 23 Aug 2004 08:44:05 -0700) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on hobbiton.shire.net) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SPAM: Score 3.3: Re: Instead of freebsd.com, why not... X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 03:28:13 -0000 On Feb 11, 2005, at 6:38 PM, Johnson David wrote: > From: Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC [mailto:chad@shire.net] > > > > Not to say that you cannot run a FreeBSD desktop.=A0 And any efforts=20= > to=A0 > > make that easier are applauded.=A0 I used to run Linux on the=20 > desktop[1] > > and FreeBSD on the server.=A0 Setting up Linux as a desktop at the = time > > (1990-2000 timeframe) was so much easier.=A0 I don't know about now,=20= > but > > with Linux (SuSE is what I used back then) it was as easy as setting=20= > up > > Windows. > > The suitability of a system for the desktop has only a little to do=20 > with installation and setup. If you're a newbie sitting at home=20 > without an administrator, then by all means stick with Mac OSX. No, I am an admin as well as a software developer and I use OS X=20 because it works, and works well. I am not bad mouthing using X (as in=20= X11) for desktops. It has its place. I personally have no use for an=20= X11 based desktop and my time is better spent doing other things. In=20 its current state, X11 based desktops require a certain amount of=20 caretaking and time spent to make it work, and even then, as a general=20= desktop, it does not work as well as OS X for the average user. For=20 certain people, though, it may be the better choice. > But the desktop market is far bigger than the newbie sitting at home.=20= > You also have to consider the business desktop where you have=20 > sysadmins to do the installation and setup. If you can train an admin=20= > to configure X.org (which ain't that hard), then there's no reason you=20= > can't have FreeBSD and KDE/GNOME/WhateverDE on the business desktop.=20= > Other than mindshare, that is. I am all for people working on FreeBSD as a desktop. The more=20 non-Windows desktops out there the better off we all are. cheers Chad