From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 19 16:16:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94CDC16A4CE for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 16:16:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeus.acuson.com (ac17860.acuson.com [157.226.71.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A4A243D5A for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 16:16:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from DavidJohnson@Siemens.com) Received: from mvaexch02 ([157.226.230.209]:3512 helo=mvaexch02.acuson.com) by zeus.acuson.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1AijZ7-0000Et-5W; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 16:16:21 -0800 Received: by mvaexch02.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 16:09:15 -0800 Received: from dhcp-46-107.acuson.com ([157.226.46.107]) by mvaexch01.acuson.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2657.72) id VDN3DVMY; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 16:08:12 -0800 From: Johnson David To: Marin Krkac Organization: Siemens Medical Systems Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 16:14:23 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 References: <400A89CC.1060200@public.srce.hr> <200401191114.31546.DavidJohnson@Siemens.com> <400C6863.4050804@public.srce.hr> In-Reply-To: <400C6863.4050804@public.srce.hr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200401191614.23553.DavidJohnson@Siemens.com> X-Scanner: exiscan for exim4 (http://duncanthrax.net/exiscan/) *1AijZ7-0000Et-5W*CFsi1LeSOzE* cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What about controllerless "hardware" modems? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 00:16:48 -0000 On Monday 19 January 2004 03:29 pm, Marin Krkac wrote: > Because, as I've said already, if it doesn't work, I really > don't see a point in running FreeBSD. There is no other way I can get > on-line. Regardless of whether this is a "hardware" or "software" modem, it clearly is a modem designed to be used under Windows only. As such, I call it a "winmodem". Look at the FreeBSD FAQ (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/faq/hardware.html#SUPPORT-WINMODEM) for a couple of ports that might possibly help. There are many ways to get online besides using one specific model of modem. I know it's a pain in the butt, but you cannot buy Windows-only hardware and then complain that you can't use it on another OS. (If you just want to commiserate, you have my full sympathy, and if you are ever in the area, I will buy you a beer). Those of us who have been using non-MS operating systems for a while have learned the hard and painful way that you must research your hardware before you buy it. It's very annoying, but it's one of the prices you pay for not using Windows. p.s. When you do find a hardware manufacturer that specifically supports FreeBSD, buy their product and go out of your way to thank them. It's the only reason I am using an NVidia video card instead of ATI. David