Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2024 17:07:00 +0000 From: Alexander Burke <alex@alexburke.ca> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: paulf@quillandmouse.com Subject: Re: Installing/running X11 Message-ID: <d64deea9-2f09-4f3c-8540-c0bdc5f4490d@alexburke.ca> In-Reply-To: <20240203164541.nibx4olun3jz66rn@yosemite.mars.lan> References: <20240203144851.d47zguvjtisjdsz4@yosemite.mars.lan> <b702f1f0-10ef-40b6-a0bd-b2ce413e4e73@alexburke.ca> <20240203164541.nibx4olun3jz66rn@yosemite.mars.lan>
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Hi Paul, > Step 9: pkg install xorg > > This is weak at *best*. Obviously, I did this. And according to almost > *every* other advisor I've read, there are more packages which need to be > installed, as I indicated in my original message. There are twelve steps on that page. Maybe keep reading before hitting Reply? > Perhaps you underestimate my level of experience. My apologies; I should have said "given your level of experience with FreeBSD". > I've been running Linux exclusively since 1996. Coming from someone who didn't know about `ssh -vvv` and/or how to parse its output (or look up re how to do so), this is... quite a surprise. I won't take up any more of your time. Enjoy the rest of your weekend! Cheers, Alex On 2024-02-03 17:45, Paul M Foster wrote: > On Sat, Feb 03, 2024 at 05:01:43PM +0100, Alexander Burke wrote: > >> Hi Paul, >> >> Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but I'm starting to get the feeling that you >> might not have paid as much attention to the wealth of documentation on >> FreeBSD as perhaps you could have. There's nothing wrong with just diving >> in, but a bit of guidance in unfamiliar waters is never a bad thing! >> >> The most general/basic advice is here; in this case, jump to step 9: >> https://freebsdfoundation.org/setting-up-a-desktop-environment-from-scratch/ > > Step 9: pkg install xorg > > This is weak at *best*. Obviously, I did this. And according to almost > *every* other advisor I've read, there are more packages which need to be > installed, as I indicated in my original message. > >> >> Going up a notch in detail is the excellent FreeBSD Handbook. The Desktop >> section has separate subsections for the KDE, GNOME, XFCE, MATE, Cinnamon, >> and LXQT desktop environments. Look around for reviews and screenshots and >> pick one; they are listed here in approximate descending order of >> popularity: >> https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/desktop/ > > And of course, this was the first place I looked, since the handbook > *should* be the definitive guide. Needless to say, despite following the > advice there, X is not starting properly for me. > >> >> I also cannot speak highly enough of vermaden's fabulous blog, which has >> generally been my first or second port of call when I had questions before I >> turned to the mailing lists. Here's his page collating all of his entries >> regarding setting up a FreeBSD desktop: >> https://vermaden.wordpress.com/freebsd-desktop/Â (scroll down past the >> screenshots) >> > > Been there, too. Vermaden is the one who details hacking the X11 configs > manually, unlike everyone else. And according to every other source, this > really shouldn't be necessary. I don't want to go there unless I have to. > >> There's also the FreeBSD Forums, which are very searchable: >> https://forums.freebsd.org/ > > This could take a while... > >> >> Given your level of experience, I recommend sticking to packages, and not >> touching the port system. You can explore the various packages which exist >> at Freshports: >> https://www.freshports.org/ >> >> Important to remember is that packages are simply precompiled ports. They're >> a lot easier to deal with than ports. >> > > Perhaps you underestimate my level of experience. I've been running Linux > exclusively since 1996. And I'm aware of the difference between packages > and ports. That's in the manual, early on. > > Paul >
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