From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Mar 16 22:25: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from lariat.org (lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 185A237B718 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 22:24:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from mustang.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp0.lariat.org@lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA18054; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:24:46 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010316204324.00c7e4d0@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 20:52:53 -0700 To: Mike Meyer From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: Stallman stalls again Cc: Mike Meyer , chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <15025.48609.728194.582344@guru.mired.org> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010316000411.00e3dcb0@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20010315232521.00ccf340@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20010315180735.00c71720@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20010315075228.00e60ac0@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20010315005732.00b5cef0@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20010314185307.00e6ab00@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20010314182353.00ba5880@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20010314170008.00d86960@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20010314132512.04acb100@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20010313211657.00e294a0@localhost> <3AADC096.DE27817@outpost.co.nz> <4.3.2.7.2.20010311235053.00e26140@localhost> <20010305205030.G80474@lpt.ens.fr> <4.3.2.7.2.20010305125259.00cfdae0@localhost> <20010305142108.A17269@marx.marvic.chum> <4.3.2.7.2.20010306011342.045fb360@localhost> <20010306081025.A22143@marx.marvic.chum> <4.3.2.7.2.20010306092612.00b79f00@localhost> <20010306174618.N32515@lpt.ens.fr> <4.3.2.7.2.20010311230800.00e19bd0@localhost> <15020.28993.192354.986367@guru.mired.org> <4.3.2.7.2.20010312223234.0445f3a0@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20010316000411.00e3dcb0@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 12:16 AM 3/16/2001, Mike Meyer wrote: >I already pointed out the problem with the quotes. Your response to my >request for the context was "go find it yourself." Lame excuse! If you can't use the Net, it's not my fault. >Come on - show me a >single direct quote where he says "go steal programs". Or even two >sentences, one that follows the other, where he says "publishers call >sharing piracy. Share as much as you can". Better yet, provide a URL >for that. His Web site was once more explicit about this, but in a good example of Orwellian revisionism he quietly toned it down. So, you'll need to go to any place where Stallman speaks. He's quite candid in front of live audiences that he considers to be sympathetic. I might be able to obtain some transcripts of his speech at the 1999 LinuxWorld, which wasn't published online, in which he did directly advocate piracy. As he did in personal conversations with Yours Truly. >You should be flattered that I chose to imitate your rhetorical >technics. Oh, I'm sooooooo flattered. Alas, you fail to imitate me on one important way: You're not thinking critically. You've apparently been taken in by Stallman's fraud. >I'm sure they learned something. Most of them learned that responding >to what you write is a waste of time, because you aren't going to pay >attention. I pay attention. That's why I am seeking to raise awareness about Stallman, the GPL, and their true aims and effects. When you see programmers irrationally slitting their own throats and spouting propraganda, and a war brewing that's going to hurt EVERYONE, it's time to expose the demagogue for what he is. --Brett Glass To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message