From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 16 13:49:42 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE26C37B401 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 13:49:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACAC943FBD for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 13:49:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-mobile@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19S0sP-0005Zj-00 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:46:53 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19S0r0-0005SA-00 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:45:26 +0200 From: Jesse Guardiani Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 16:48:16 -0400 Organization: WingNET Lines: 46 Message-ID: References: <200306161253.10715.metrol@metrol.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org User-Agent: KNode/0.7.2 X-Mail-Copies-To: never Sender: news Subject: Re: 5.1 - should I? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jesse@wingnet.net List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 20:49:43 -0000 Michael Collette wrote: > As you've probably seen from my previous posts, I'm having a heck of a > time > getting 4-STABLE to play properly on this Thinkpad R40. My #1 problem has > to > do with the power management. After running through a variety of kind > suggestions I'm still no further along in returning this box to it's > owner. > > I'm a little leary about putting 5 on there, as it'll be my first install > of > this version. I wouldn't mind so much playing around with it on a box > that I would have in front of me, but this is going to a user that has no > intention > of learning Unix. Whoa. Hold up! For users who want to learn as little about *nix as possible, I'd recommend Red Hat Linux. Full GUI driven configuration. FreeBSD will likely only frustrate such a user. I _still_ haven't gotten ACPI or APM suspend successfully working under 4.x or 5.x on my IBM A30p. And I'm not a dummy. The code just isn't interfacing properly with my hardware. I can get standby to work under 5.x with APM, but nothing more. (And standby barely helps at all on this laptop) I did, however, get APM working fully under Debian Linux. And I've since had some time to fiddle with Red Hat Linux. (I like it much better than debian.) Red Hat is a good choice for a user who doesn't want to learn *nix, but even Red Hat is a long shot IMHO with such a user. Usually users like that need to get either a windows box or a Mac. (Preferably a Mac) As for me, I'm sticking with FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE, but I've got a different set of needs than a normal GUI-familiar user. -- Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) http://www.wingnet.net